I think I should rephrase "you're likely to have your stuff taken from you".... I wasn't referring to us here, we're armed and have had training. I meant folks that have done nothing other than buying a hand gun and one box of ammo, and have no idea how to use it. Those folks are hosed for sure.

It's also fair to say that I don't have the most ideal set up on the planet, but I do have enough of most stuff if used sparingly, to probably last two years. Gasoline excluded, I did have a plan for that at one time....never followed through on it though. Wife knows how to can, her Mom was full of little tricks for different foods and taught her all that....but she never got all the supplies to get moving on it, and proper storage at optimal temperatures can be an issue for anything if you're restricted in usable space dedicated for that.