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What do we care now? It's not like people have voted for conservatives lately?Originally Posted by TFOGGER
You either believe in a world like Trump believes, or you don't.
We are done pandering to you "so called conservatives."
-John
Last edited by arbol; 12-09-2022 at 21:37.
It's hilarious that you think Trump is a conservative.
Trump is a Trumpian, first, last and always.
David Cole over at Taki's mag got it right. Cole is a conservative but he's smart enough to see that Trump is the boat anchor that will take the Republican party all the way to the bottom of the ocean:
https://www.takimag.com/article/midt...isjoin-or-die/A core belief of these cultists is that MAGAs alone can elect anyone anywhere. They don?t just dismiss independents; they?re outright hostile to them. ?To hell with anyone who?s not ?one of us.? We can do this ourselves!?
Even though, of course, they can?t. It?s a complete fiction that MAGAs alone can elect as much as a dogcatcher. But you?ll never convince them of that. They refuse to understand that Trump barely won in 2016 (a handful of votes in a few swing states), and of course they can?t accept that he lost in 2020. Not with MAGAs behind him! If you?re MAGA and you lose, it has to be fraud!
Kari Lake telling McCain supporters?in McCain?s state??to hell with you; beat it, we don?t need ya? had nothing to do with her loss. She had MAGAs, and that?s all you need! So she must?ve won!
Trump doesn't care about "America", he cares about Trump. And he knows that win or lose, HE will be just fine.
Democrats LOVE Trump. They know that the more he runs his mouth, the more they solidify their chances of taking the white house again in 2024. Without a Hillary to run against, Trump has ZERO chance of winning in 2024, but if he either runs as a 3rd party or just spends his days ripping the Republican party to shreds because they didn't nominate him, he can (a) cause the Republican candidate to lose and (b) get his face on TV.
Martin
If you love your freedom, thank a veteran. If you love to party, thank the Beastie Boys. They fought for that right.
Trump is not now, or ever been a conservative. he ran on the R platform, as the D's told everyone. It's Hillary's turn. He' supported D actions , politicians, etc ,his entire time in NYS. His politics were always D slanted. BUT he saw an opportunity to go for it under the R banner. IF he runs in 24, he will not get my vote, a 3rd time. As the last post mentioned. He's dragging any potential R win down, slowly, but surely .
The Great Kazoo's Feedback
"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
Not to pick on you too much, but Trump is more responsible for the US Debt than any person in US history.
He treated the US like a teenager with Daddy's credit card, and made Obama look like a Pious, fiscally responsible spender for cryn-out-loud.
There's what you want to believe, there's the poop coming out of Trumps mouth, and there's what's the truth, and 25% of the entire national debt came from Trump. More than $25,000 per citizen, incurred during Trump. And yes, the executive is entirely responsible for the budget, and yes he was spending like the democrat he is even before the pandemic. You should seriously look this up.
I for one, will NOT be voting for Trump if he is nominated. Any true conservative could not.
As bizarre as this world is, they could nominate AOC and she's probably be more fiscally responsible in comparison for f's sake, and that woman is a garbage can.
Last edited by FoxtArt; 12-10-2022 at 22:17.
That's just plane false, FoxtArt. Blinden and his friends have spent far more than Trump.
Kazoo, and Martin, I don't know how you can be so wrong.
-John
Last edited by arbol; 12-11-2022 at 23:52.
easy.. First off, i was a very strong trump supporter. BUT, now It's time for him to shut up and move on. If i'm tired of him, imagine how many others are too.
He'll basically hand the d's a super majority in 24. Allowing them to pack the court, like they want. With zero pushback.
But we shall see who's "wrong" in 2 yrs, if that.
The Great Kazoo's Feedback
"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
Do you understand that you are electing socialists, and communists?
-John
We have been. Regularly since at least Andrew Jackson. Trump is, in my estimation, at worst a foreign agent. At best an egotistical puppet playing the political system in just enough of a different way to fool many of us.
And here's a classic example of why no R will ever take the Whitehouse, ever. You're so tied up with trump, you and millions like you will screw us over because= trump. Honestly, do you believe at this point in time he has the backing to go all the way? His big money donors are gone, his political supporters are almost gone. What's he have left, you? Sending him $$ for how much longer.
I'll say this, IF (big IF) he actually steps up . Those personal attacks on other R candidates will finish him off.
Let's not forget the labelling of anyone who doesn't support him. It's bad enough i'm a democracy hating, misogynists', homophobe, white privileged male.
Now folks like you are trying to tell me i'm responsible for getting socialist & commies elected, GFYS .
The Great Kazoo's Feedback
"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
He will not win the primaries.
He has turned any association with him into a black mark on Republican's records.
His latest nonsense about suspending the Constitution may have been the antic that shut down his chances for good.
I read a lot of news and opinions on both sides.
The leftists have always hated him as is well known but the right is turning it's back on him as well.
He announced several weeks ago and has done zero events that outline his plan. No appearances or rallies.
His time has passed.
Last edited by eddiememphis; 12-12-2022 at 16:57.
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