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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    I've got to tell you, that many of you are disappointing me.

    Donald Trump is/was the best thing to happen to America in a long time.

    I still remember the night he beat Hillary. I was resigned to her winning, and then there was Trump.

    Wait, is this a thing?

    Oh, my gosh!

    Needless to say, I missed work the next day.

    -John
    It's not a matter of good or bad. It is a matter of electability.

    With the obvious animosity of the major media outlets, will he be able to sway undecided voters this time?

    That's assuming he wins the GOP primary which is looking less likely. If he goes 3rd party, he has no chance of winning, nor does the Republican nominee since he will siphon off votes that would normally go Republican.

    It's going to be interesting if nothing else.

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    It is a matter of good or bad.

    Only Trump, speaks plainly, and puts America first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    It's not a matter of good or bad. It is a matter of electability.

    With the obvious animosity of the major media outlets, will he be able to sway undecided voters this time?

    That's assuming he wins the GOP primary which is looking less likely. If he goes 3rd party, he has no chance of winning, nor does the Republican nominee since he will siphon off votes that would normally go Republican.

    It's going to be interesting if nothing else.
    Trump as a candidate will ensure that the Democrats take the White House.
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    Does it even matter anymore, if the Democrats and Republicans in Name Only, take the White House?

    Do you understand that we are now at 31 Trillion Dollars, in national debt?

    We need Donald Trump, more than ever.

    -John
    Last edited by arbol; 11-17-2022 at 20:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Does it even matter anymore, if the Democrats and Republicans in Name Only, take the White House?

    Do you understand that we are now at 31 Trillion Dollars, in national debt?

    We need Donald Trump, more than ever.

    -John
    Considering that trump increased our national debt by 36% during his tenure, I’ll say, no, we don’t need him.

    https://www.thebalancemoney.com/trum...l-debt-4114401
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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Does it even matter anymore, if the Democrats and Republicans in Name Only, take the White House?

    Do you understand that we are now at 31 Trillion Dollars, in national debt?

    We need Donald Trump, more than ever.

    -John
    It does matter. There are still significant differences between the two parties. Guns, abortion and the current trans madness are just a few of the many issues where there is a difference.

    I agree there are many Republicans that are not as conservative as many would like, but there is still a vast difference between AOC and Boebert.

    But Trump is no savior. Government spending during his administration was greater than Obama and Bush, despite his promise to balance the budget and pay off the entire debt.

    Trump- $7.8T 4 year term versus 8 for the other two
    Obama-$5T
    Bush-$6.9T

    $3.9 of Trump's was pandemic relief spending which may or may not have been necessary. It likely led to some of the inflation we are dealing with now.

    He pledged to repeal Obamacare and reform social security. He placed tariffs on China which raised prices on consumer products. He left office with the largest peacetime deficit in history and debt exceeding 100% of GDP for the first time since WWII.

    I realize that Presidents get more credit and blame than they often deserve since the federal government is a very complicated institution.

    This is my long winded way of saying I can't envision him doing anything to significantly reduce the debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMRICO View Post
    The GOP? Mitch McConnells GOP?
    He didn?t need them then and he don?t need them now. The GOP in DC IS THE REASON all this crap happened and is happening.
    Amen. Just part of the cabal that's screwing us...from both sides.

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    It's not a matter if you, us, we like Trump, or like what he did. It is a matter of how He or a Republican gets into the Whitehouse. Trump can't. He simply will not get the votes needes. Yes, we would vote for him, but the votes he needs to win are not going to come from us. Those votes are from the same people who voted against the "red wave" last week. Those voters simply despise Trump and will not vote for him or anyone who supports him.

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    People were willing to put up with Trump's crap when he looked like a winner. But now he has the stench of failure on him so his bluster just makes him look like an ass.

    Trump was a one-trick pony. All he's got is his loud mouth. Now that we've seen how that not only doesn't help, but actively hurts other Republicans, he's a liability, not an asset.
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