Help identify these hand guns

[fitterjohn]

I am helping a friend with her father estate. He had a large amount of firearms there where only 2 that i couldn't identify. The first is a smith and wesson, no model number(under the yoke looked like a 6 digit product number, but couldn't read fully) It is stamped 38 S&W special on the barrel


The second I don't know anything about, no markings at all


any help with these would be great. as a side note does anyone know if there is interest in a Remington model 11 in 12ga i think made in 1918