For my commie upper AR15?s, this is my load;

The POI on these is 12 or 14 inches lower than standard wolf loads at 100 yards. These cycle an AR-15 fine, and are great suppressed.

Speer 180 grain round nose
11.5 grains of Accurate 5744
Seated so they fit in the magazine.

12 grains is supersonic.



174 grain Sierra Matchking
11.5g Accurate 5744. I suspect 11.7 may be a better load than 11.5 on these, but the accuracy was much less than the 180?s in both my uppers so I didn?t investigate further.