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    Default Rittenhouse Hates Trump...

    or does he?

    https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendm...#disqus_thread
    https://reason.com/2024/08/02/nobody...=true#comments

    "A lot of people are upset that I said I'm going to be writing in Ron Paul for president of the United States, and that is true. I will be writing in Ron Paul." So said Kyle Rittenhouse in a recent video posted to X."

    "Unfortunately, Donald Trump had bad advisers, making him bad on the Second Amendment, and that is my issue."

    He added, "If you cannot be completely uncompromisable on the Second Amendment, I will not vote for you, and I will write somebody else in. We need champions for the Second Amendment or our rights would be eaten away and eroded each day. I support my decision and I have no takebacks."

    Update: About 14 hours after Rittenhouse shared his video explaining his support for Ron Paul, declaring that "you must stand by your principles," he announced that he spoke "with members of the Trump's [sic] team" and that he is now "100% behind Donald Trump."

    "Over the past 12 hours, I've had a series of productive conversations with members of the Trump's team, and I am confident he will be the strong ally gun owners need to defend our...rights," Rittenhouse also said. "My comments made last night were ill-informed and unproductive."

    The comments on Breitbart say he gets a pass for being an uninformed kid, but this is his only warning.
    The comments on Reason say he owes no allegiance to anyone, and Ron Paul will save the nation.

    I agree with the Reason crowd. One dumb kid's vote isn't going to affect the election, especially in Dallas, where he lives.

    I also doubt the power of his celebrity to have much influence on anyone, much like David Hogg on the other side.

    I wonder what Team Trump told him to change his mind? Did they own up to the mistakes made previously- bump stock ban, red flag endorsement- and lay out cogent policy going forward?

    Or did they tell him to shut his yap or the gravy train will stop?

    I am guessing the latter since Trump denouncing Rittenhouse would kill his "credibility" with most of the MAGA crowd which view him as a hero.
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    Don't give a crap what this idiot thinks or who is voting for.

    He is no intellectual, no 2A warrior, no political figure. Just a stupid young adult who put himself unnecessary into a bad situation and fended off attackers.

    If he was smart, he would have asked for his AR back and auction it off for his profit or favorite cause. But nope, allowed it to be destroyed for no reason.

    I wish this irrelevant useful idiot would just fade away.

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    Well, if you are a single issue voter and a member of this forum Trump probably isn't your guy any more than the other side.

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    I only have one issue. It is the UFO/UAP issue.
    Per Ardua ad Astra

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    I only have one issue. It is the UFO/UAP issue.
    We knew what they were since at least the early 1980s. That was the some of the most highly classified data in the US Government, for whatever reason. Europe, South America, and even the Soviets were far more open with their data.

    Premise 1: They're not "extraterrestrial," they've been here since before we were.

    Premise 2: They are not tangible physical craft. They seem to be a 5th dimensional phenomenon.

    Premise 3: If they had any interest whatsoever in "taking over the planet" they could've very easily achieved that back in the 1940s when they expressed how pissed off they were about us nuking Japan.

    Premise 4: We have never recovered any "debris" or "bodies." Roswell was a PSYOP, as was Project Blue Book (and a myriad of similar Projects).

    If you want to understand this a little better, the two books I recommend are "Above Top Secret" by Goode and "Passport to Magonia" by Vallee. Read those, then just put it out of your mind and ignore all the crap on the internet about it. Nobody is being "abducted" and while cattle mutilations are very real they seem to have little, if any, connection to this phenomenon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    ...ignore all the crap on the internet...
    Best advice I have ever heard.

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    Default Crunch Time! (AKA just nuke it from orbit)

    Well that is a lot of disinformation. You might want to read :

    "An Introduction to Planetary Defense: A Study of Modern Warfare Applied to Extra-Terrestrial Invasion " by Taylor, et al.

    The current political line up is severely lacking in qualifications to lead us in these circumstances. I made a big mistake trusting these types in the past.


    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    We knew what they were since at least the early 1980s. That was the some of the most highly classified date in the US Government, for whatever reason. Europe, South America, and even the Soviets were far more open with their data.

    Premise 1: They're not "extraterrestrial," they've been here since before we were.

    Premise 2: They are not tangible physical craft. They seem to be a 5th dimensional phenomenon.

    Premise 3: If they had any interest whatsoever in "taking over the planet" they could've very easily achieved that back in the 1940s when they expressed how pissed off they were about us nuking Japan.

    Premise 4: We have never recovered any "debris" or "bodies." Roswell was a PSYOP, as was Project Blue Book (and a myriad of similar Projects).

    If you want to understand this a little better, the two books I recommend are "Above Top Secret" by Goode and "Passport to Magonia" by Vallee. Read those, then just put it out of your mind and ignore all the crap on the internet about it. Nobody is being "abducted" and while cattle mutilations are very real they seem to have little, if any, connection to this phenomenon.
    Per Ardua ad Astra

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    Not a big worry BMB.

    Humanity has many presumptions that run contrary to good science:
    #1: We're the top dog in the universe
    #2: Earth is super-special and a wonderful planet
    #3: Life either exists only on earth or is rare.
    #4: The vast distances of the universe would keep anything from reaching us, because even five light years would take them five years, so nothing ever visits us.
    #5: Obviously nothing exists because nothing has talked to us, and we're special, damnit.
    #6: All the things that have been here are explainable via religion, or dimensions, or something to preserve the common beliefs in elements 1-5.

    The science is showing:
    #1: There are over 3,000 incidents a year that cannot be readily explained, and many incidents that are so well-validated in telemetry, signals, and witness observation that they cannot be discounted by any explanation. Tic-tacs being the most famous of them all. Our own government recognizes there is a level of technology that surpasses anything on earth, and it's often around.
    #2: Earth lacks all sorts of materials, minerals, alloys, etc., some of which we're aware of existing in e.g. asteroids within our system, and some of which we know we don't have but exist only in theory because we don't have them.
    Subnote: Why would anything really want to "take earth" if it's the equivalent of a Detroit ghetto. The places that anything wants to be, they would already be. Some real estate isn't "worth it". These incidents are not new, they've been going on for a very, very long time. If anything wanted earth, they already would've built here. Nothing wants to stay.
    #3: Every test for life is essentially positive on every rocky world in our solar system, with the exception of Mercury, which we haven't really looked at. Life is so prevalent in earth that it exists in extreme temperatures, extreme ph, extreme chemicals, and extreme depths. There's really nowhere it isn't on earth. The presumption of "we're the only planet with life that we know of" is an incredible bias that has been invalidated every time we look. The converse statement "We haven't proven that life isn't on EVERY rocky world" is actually just as honest. The truth is most likely somewhere in between, but preliminary evidence is that life is very common "out there'.
    #4: People who believe that the universe is vast don't understand time dilation at all. While there are certainly methods of transportation we can't even conceive of, the fact remains even from conventional travel, the faster you go, the shorter the distance becomes (or alternatively, the faster you get there). If you go light speed, you, the traveler, transit the entire breadth of the entire universe in a single moment. That's one of many reasons you can't go light speed. Time only passes for everything else - the universe ages around you in that single blink of a moment. However, fractional light speed conveys the same benefit, fractionally. And more importantly, our science has proven that instead of traveling through space, it's far more ideal - and possible even within our lifetimes - to expand and contract spacetime to "move" your bubble through space itself, exceeding the issues of light-speed travel because you aren't traveling at all - space is. Even our primative asses are not that far off from reaching nearby stars. And certainly we're within a thousand years of reaching all the stars in the milky way if we don't kill ourselves first.
    #5: There are so many instances that are clearly superior technology from other species. Sorry, but Parsimony has proven to be the root of our best science; catering to cognitive dissonance has not.
    #6: We can't even converse with highly intelligent species on earth in any extent (Elephants, Dolphins, Whales, Octopus, etc.). We're early in our technology journey and already developing many methods of communication that transcend vibrating air. It's retarded to think that other far-more advanced species #1: Give a crap about "taking" with us and #2: That belief stems from the first one in which we think we're something special; and #3: That they are event possible of vibrating air in a way to communicate at all, much less care to. E.g., we are not capable of communicating in the same way that anything else does. If life is endemic to the universe, then any travelers within it have seen an utter-crap-ton of it, and we're incredibly irrelevant to other species.

    The big point here, BM, is that yes, shit is out there. But it's also a lot older than us, and ol' Earthy is not special enough for anything to give a damn. Best not to piss whatever they are off (there's been a few attempts that failed dismally, mostly in Russia and Iran), but they are probably about as interested in Humanity as a person driving by on the interstate is in stopping and conversing with a Prairie Dog. Even when that prairie dog flings poop the drivers just ignore it.

    Why are there so many events? Who knows, but based on the most well-documented and irrefutable cases, I'd speculate the majority of the time it's simply resources - heavy water or H20 as they are typically water focused or water collecting. Then they depart this detroit gas station on off to their actually desired destination, you know, the equivalent of Cabo or a Florida beach, instead of a burnt out ghetto with shitty winters.

    Nobody REALLY wants to live on earth, not even people. Looking at you Musk, and all the volunteers that want to live on a cold, dusty asshole of a planet instead.
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    I'll sum up that prior post as this:

    99% of people's beliefs on this topic are founded on a precarious principle that has not been scientifically validated: That life is rare in the universe.

    Lastly, BMB, you don't want to support "cosmic defense". Everything out there currently ignores us, because we aren't special. It's far more desirable to have them continue to do so, than engage in the fantasy that we could engage in conflict with another species.

    The thing we don't want to do is rapidly attempt to transition from "prairie dog" on the side of the interstate, to "competition", much less "early threat". Natives meeting British guns would PALE in comparison to the premise that we could successfully point pointy things at other species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    #4: People who believe that the universe is vast don't understand time dilation at all.
    One of the things that Einstein got wrong was that "the 4th dimension is time." It most certainly is not. The 4th and 5th dimensions are spatial. And, the weird thing is, time runs differently in every dimension. Also, wormholes are mostly bullshit.

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