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    Default Department of Government Efficiency

    https://reason.com/2024/11/13/saint-elon/
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elo...ent-efficiency

    "The Department of Government Efficiency will provide advice and guidance from outside of Government, and will partner with the White House and Office of Management & Budget to drive large scale structural reform, and create an entrepreneurial approach to Government never seen before," wrote Trump in his statement announcing the picks. "It will become, potentially, 'The Manhattan Project' of our time."

    "All actions of the Department of Government Efficiency will be posted online for maximum transparency," wrote Musk on X. "Anytime the public thinks we are cutting something important or not cutting something wasteful, just let us know! We will also have a leaderboard for most insanely dumb spending of your tax dollars. This will be both extremely tragic and extremely entertaining."

    Sounds good to me- especially if it actually works.

    Like all of Trump's ideas, we have to wait to see if it is bluster or reality.

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    Imagine eliminating bureaucrats by creating a new department. Sounds counterproductive, but I appreciate the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3beansalad View Post
    Imagine eliminating bureaucrats by creating a new department. Sounds counterproductive, but I appreciate the effort.
    ^^^This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3beansalad View Post
    Imagine eliminating bureaucrats by creating a new department. Sounds counterproductive, but I appreciate the effort.
    I know I don't need to explain myself, but I'm going to attempt to anyway.
    I support the incoming administration, and the effort to clean up our bloated government. I hope this is successful. And if it's only Elon and Vivek, I'm sure it will. I doubt they can accomplish this on their own though, no matter their drive and ambition.

    This will face major opposition from the swamp, both D & R, that have made federal employment their lifelong home.
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    The VA should form a college for disabled veterans (or qualified others) that want to study medicine. Add in some AI programming skills too. Make it available online. Quit blowing DEI in my face! It is a waste of money.
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    I am curious how the Department of Redundancy Department will work out.
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    In the DoD alone, probably 20% of their budget goes to: waste, graft, fraud, overcharges, and kickbacks.

    The last time the Pentagon was audited, IIRC they were unable to account for a few billion, then instead of digging deeper the matter was dropped.

    Someone places an order for 50,000 overpriced widgets... which are never used... then 20 years later they're found in a warehouse... and then, of course, there are things like the infamous $15,000 toilet seat, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    In the DoD alone, probably 20% of their budget goes to: waste, graft, fraud, overcharges, and kickbacks.

    The last time the Pentagon was audited, IIRC they were unable to account for a few billion, then instead of digging deeper the matter was dropped.

    Someone places an order for 50,000 overpriced widgets... which are never used... then 20 years later they're found in a warehouse... and then, of course, there are things like the infamous $15,000 toilet seat, lol.

    The problem with the DoD is that after auditing, the waste, graft, fraud, overcharges, and kickbacks will remain while important beneficial programs will get cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    The problem with the DoD is that after auditing, the waste, graft, fraud, overcharges, and kickbacks will remain while important beneficial programs will get cut.
    You're one of the few that get it across the GOV. And it's not just waste/fraud/graft/etc. It's also how government employment flat out works.

    Sure, a ton of federal employees should be trimmed back. But they won't.

    They can cut budgets and layoff people, but they'll keep the dead wood and layoff contractors left and right (the ones that do the work), then ask the poor (contractor) souls that remain to do the work of 8 people for 1/2 the pay.

    Then when essential services that the contractors uphold fall apart, they'll blame the budget cuts.

    The Federal dead wood isn't going anywhere, their wages and raises aren't going anywhere, it's all legislated, protected, etc....

    In our gov, federal employees hold a lot of meetings and charge timecards. Most departments it's the contractors that do the "real work", in part to conceal the # of true federal employment, but more importantly, to f* people over. Contractors usually get bottom-barrel benefits and lowest-bid wage categorization. Then it's the "federal employees" who decide how to "direct" the contractors. On average you're looking at 1 fed to 2 contractors or more.

    99% of the fed employees will still be there even if we do trim a full T. [And it's this category that needs the most reduction, TBH]
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    I see there is still a lot of butt hurt and TDS on the forum, not willing to consider new ideas or give anything a chance.

    I?ve been working for the Federal Government for a bit now, have held mid level management positions (self demoted because of the dirty business). When you have multiple departments just within one geographical portion of the agency spending 10?s of thousands of dollars on bullshit at the end of the year, just so congress doesn?t cut their budget for the following year, I have a huge problem with that, and if we can get some form of checks and balances, I?m all for it.


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