Department of Government Efficiency

[brutal]

If they can cut the $1T in fraud, and the wasteful needless grant money that goes out for things like studying the effect of gin vs vodka for sunfish, I'm all for it.

We can start by firing 80K IRS agents, slashing the EPA boondoggle, Dept of Education, etc.

[BushMasterBoy]

It is my understanding that trillions have been spent covering this up. So when do I fly the spacecraft?

[hollohas]

2.5M federal employees, yeah, there's plenty of room to cut. Just like when a company that's losing money, it's time the US gov had massive layoffs to save money.

The average salary for federal employees is $100k according to the OPM.

Layoff 20%, save $50B per year.

Doesn't make a big dent in the $2T deficit, but it's a start.

[3beansalad]

Imagine eliminating bureaucrats by creating a new department. Sounds counterproductive, but I appreciate the effort.

I know I don't need to explain myself, but I'm going to attempt to anyway.
I support the incoming administration, and the effort to clean up our bloated government. I hope this is successful. And if it's only Elon and Vivek, I'm sure it will. I doubt they can accomplish this on their own though, no matter their drive and ambition.

This will face major opposition from the swamp, both D & R, that have made federal employment their lifelong home.

[Clint45]

It is my understanding that trillions have been spent covering this up. So when do I fly the spacecraft?

That coverup goes back to the 1940s and remains ongoing. They are unlikely ever to release that data and continue to gaslight the public.

First of all, there are no "spacecraft." Roswell was a PSYOP, there is zero indication of extraterrestrial origin, we have never recovered any "debris" and never will.

This is a 5th dimensional phenomenon.

[Great-Kazoo]

I see there is still a lot of butt hurt and TDS on the forum, not willing to consider new ideas or give anything a chance.

I?ve been working for the Federal Government for a bit now, have held mid level management positions (self demoted because of the dirty business). When you have multiple departments just within one geographical portion of the agency spending 10?s of thousands of dollars on bullshit at the end of the year, just so congress doesn?t cut their budget for the following year, I have a huge problem with that, and if we can get some form of checks and balances, I?m all for it.


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Having worked for the state, i agree. They find more ways to waste time and $$ doing what we'd consider simple task.

2.5M federal employees, yeah, there's plenty of room to cut. Just like when a company that's losing money, it's time the US gov had massive layoffs to save money.

The average salary for federal employees is $100k according to the OPM.

Layoff 20%, save $50B per year.

Doesn't make a big dent in the $2T deficit, but it's a start.

As i've said before. If their non-essential employees, they're also better off elsewhere.

[FoxtArt]

The problem with the DoD is that after auditing, the waste, graft, fraud, overcharges, and kickbacks will remain while important beneficial programs will get cut.

You're one of the few that get it across the GOV. And it's not just waste/fraud/graft/etc. It's also how government employment flat out works.

Sure, a ton of federal employees should be trimmed back. But they won't.

They can cut budgets and layoff people, but they'll keep the dead wood and layoff contractors left and right (the ones that do the work), then ask the poor (contractor) souls that remain to do the work of 8 people for 1/2 the pay.

Then when essential services that the contractors uphold fall apart, they'll blame the budget cuts.

The Federal dead wood isn't going anywhere, their wages and raises aren't going anywhere, it's all legislated, protected, etc....

In our gov, federal employees hold a lot of meetings and charge timecards. Most departments it's the contractors that do the "real work", in part to conceal the # of true federal employment, but more importantly, to f* people over. Contractors usually get bottom-barrel benefits and lowest-bid wage categorization. Then it's the "federal employees" who decide how to "direct" the contractors. On average you're looking at 1 fed to 2 contractors or more.

99% of the fed employees will still be there even if we do trim a full T. [And it's this category that needs the most reduction, TBH]

[eddiememphis]

None of it will amount to a thing compared to the big three- Social Security (1.3T), Medicare and Medicaid (1.7T) and welfare (780B), and no one is willing to touch those entitlement programs.

National defense could surely use a trimming (820B) but as what cost?

Total Federal payroll is around 280B so even firing everyone would do very little to affect the 6.75T spending.


*Edited the social security and medicare numbers from B toT

[arbol]

None of it will amount to a thing compared to the big three- Social Security (1.3B), Medicare and Medicaid (1.7B) and welfare (780B), and no one is willing to touch those entitlement programs.

National defense could surely use a trimming (820B) but as what cost?

Total Federal payroll is around 280B so even firing everyone would do very little to affect the 6.75T spending.

Big 5 now... the interest on the debt being one of them...

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/amer...ing-categories

-John

[hurley842002]

None of it will amount to a thing compared to the big three- Social Security (1.3B), Medicare and Medicaid (1.7B) and welfare (780B), and no one is willing to touch those entitlement programs.

National defense could surely use a trimming (820B) but as what cost?

Total Federal payroll is around 280B so even firing everyone would do very little to affect the 6.75T spending.

Screw it, I guess we just keep spending like we have been. Some of you won?t be happy no matter what.


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