Department of Government Efficiency

[eddiememphis]

None of it will amount to a thing compared to the big three- Social Security (1.3T), Medicare and Medicaid (1.7T) and welfare (780B), and no one is willing to touch those entitlement programs.

National defense could surely use a trimming (820B) but as what cost?

Total Federal payroll is around 280B so even firing everyone would do very little to affect the 6.75T spending.


*Edited the social security and medicare numbers from B toT

[arbol]

None of it will amount to a thing compared to the big three- Social Security (1.3B), Medicare and Medicaid (1.7B) and welfare (780B), and no one is willing to touch those entitlement programs.

National defense could surely use a trimming (820B) but as what cost?

Total Federal payroll is around 280B so even firing everyone would do very little to affect the 6.75T spending.

Big 5 now... the interest on the debt being one of them...

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-John

[hurley842002]

None of it will amount to a thing compared to the big three- Social Security (1.3B), Medicare and Medicaid (1.7B) and welfare (780B), and no one is willing to touch those entitlement programs.

National defense could surely use a trimming (820B) but as what cost?

Total Federal payroll is around 280B so even firing everyone would do very little to affect the 6.75T spending.

Screw it, I guess we just keep spending like we have been. Some of you won?t be happy no matter what.


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[eddiememphis]

Big 5 now... the interest on the debt being one of them...

True but you can't lower the interest due through a mandate or new department. Need to cut the deficit spending first.

Screw it, I guess we just keep spending like we have been. Some of you won?t be happy no matter what.

I certainly haven't said that. Any cut in spending is generally a good idea.

A billion here, a billion there... pretty soon we're talking real money.

However, without addressing entitlements, they will still be over budget.

Total Federal tax income is around 4.5T. Spending is near 7T.

That spending gap will not be closed by shutting down the department of education and firing 80,000 IRS employees, although that is a great place to start.

Where is Tom Sowell when we need him?

[buffalobo]

None of it will amount to a thing compared to the big three- Social Security (1.3B), Medicare and Medicaid (1.7B) and welfare (780B), and no one is willing to touch those entitlement programs.

National defense could surely use a trimming (820B) but as what cost?

Total Federal payroll is around 280B so even firing everyone would do very little to affect the 6.75T spending.

If your numbers are correct, SS + M&M + welfare = less than 800 billion or less than 20% of 4.7T tax revenue.

Plenty of room to cut needless spending before tackling "big 3" or defense(another approx 20% as related to tax revenue). Not saying they dont need addressed, just plenty of other expenditures that are just fukking stupid and could be cut immediately.

Cutting .gov workers/payroll may be a "small" number but it will also cut people who spend and all the ancillary costs of employing them. Those costs are probably much greater than their payroll.

Substantial revenue could be generated just selling off the real estate/infrastructure where those employees "work".

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[eddiememphis]

If your numbers are correct, SS + M&M + welfare = less than 800 billion or less than 20% of 4.7T tax revenue.

Plenty of room to cut needless spending before tackling "big 3" or defense(another approx 20% as related to tax revenue). Not saying they dont need addressed, just plenty of other expenditures that are just fukking stupid and could be cut immediately.

Cutting .gov workers/payroll may be a "small" number but it will also cut people who spend and all the ancillary costs of employing them. Those costs are probably much greater than their payroll.

Substantial revenue could be generated just selling off the real estate/infrastructure where those employees "work".

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

You are correct.

SS and M&M should be Trillion, not Billion. I edited my post.