Upcoming legislative session..

[def90]

Any early news on what is possibly in store for us over the next couple months in regards to new fitearms legislation?

[BladesNBarrels]

An article on the Denver Post website describes a ban on semiautomatic weapons that use detachable magazines.
Long read, and a little confusing as to what it is saying, but here it is:


Colorado lawmakers will again seek to ban the sale of certain types of semiautomatic firearms in the coming legislative session, embracing a new approach after more sweeping assault weapons bans died in the state Capitol in recent years.

The new bill spearheaded by Democrats is aimed at building upon existing gun laws by prohibiting the sale, manufacture or purchase of semiautomatic weapons that use detachable magazines. It is set to be introduced in the early days of the legislative session, which begins Wednesday.

Detachable magazines feed ammunition into the gun and can be swapped out when empty. The measure would also ban rapid-fire trigger activators and bump stocks, which are components that increase the fire rate of semiautomatic rifles and were infamously used in America?s deadliest mass shooting, in Las Vegas in 2017.

The bill, sponsored by Centennial Democrat Sen. Tom Sullivan, would not prohibit possession of the targeted firearms, and anyone who possessed the weapons before a ban went into effect could keep them. The measure would level criminal penalties ? as well as the loss of licensure ? against sellers who violated it.

Sullivan cast the bill as a way to enforce the state?s 11-year-old ban on high-capacity magazines ? which, he said, are still sold in Colorado despite the prohibition. The components were used in both the Boulder King Soopers shooting and the Club Q shooting in Colorado Springs, Sullivan said.

?So instead of walking into the King Soopers with multiple magazines that (the shooter) just switched out and kept on firing, he would either have to stop and manually reload, which gives law enforcement and the public the ability to take some kind of an action ? or he would have to walk in there with multiple AR-style weapons with attached magazines,? said Sullivan, whose son, Alex, was killed in the 2012 Aurora movie theater shooting, in an interview.

The proposal is not a ban on certain semiautomatic rifles referred to as assault weapons, though its parameters would prohibit the sale of a wide swath of high-powered guns colloquially considered to be in that category. Sullivan has previously opposed efforts by Democratic lawmakers to ban assault weapons at the state level, and one such attempt passed the House before dying in the Senate last spring.

Sullivan reiterated his opposition to a state-level assault weapons ban, though he said he supported a nationwide prohibition.

Those types of firearms could still be sold under his bill, albeit in different form: If manufacturers and gun owners want to continue selling and using the weapons, Sullivan said, they would need to adjust to firearms that can only be loaded slowly, bullet by bullet, from the top of the weapon ? not through detachable magazines.

Sullivan criticized firearm manufacturers and dealers for continuing to sell high-capacity magazines in the state, and he questioned why law enforcement had not done more to proactively crack down on their sale. The effort to ban bump stocks comes after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a Trump administration ban on the components, which drew national scrutiny after the Las Vegas mass shooter fired more than 1,000 bullets in 11 minutes in 2017.

The proposal does not cover standard handguns or shotguns, though the prohibition would include the type of pistol used in the Boulder King Soopers shooting that left 10 people dead in March 2021.
Triston Young, left, and Zack Hoover, center, with Rocky Mountain Gun Owners Association, stand in front of what they say are 30,000 signed petitions against House Bill 24-1292, a proposed assault weapons ban, outside the Old State Library room at the Colorado Capitol in Denver on March 19, 2024. (Photo by Helen H. Richardson/The Denver Post)
Triston Young, left, and Zack Hoover, center, with Rocky Mountain Gun Owners Association, stand in front of what they say are 30,000 signed petitions against House Bill 24-1292, a proposed assault weapons ban, outside the Old State Library room at the Colorado Capitol in Denver on March 19, 2024. The bill passed the House but later died in the Senate. (Photo by Helen H. Richardson/The Denver Post)

The bill is a new approach to limiting the type of high-powered weapons frequently used in mass shootings, which have become a grimly frequent occurrence in Colorado and in America. While other states have banned certain semiautomatic rifles outright, Sullivan said a similar expansion of a magazine ban hasn?t been used elsewhere.

It also represents the latest step of years of Colorado Democrats? attempts to better regulate gun sales. Last year, lawmakers passed a bill to require that gun dealers hold a state license, on top of the existing federal requirement. (Gun dealers who sell weapons prohibited by Sullivan?s bill could lose their state license if it becomes law.) Legislators also directed additional money to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation to better investigate illegal sales of guns and gun components.

The new bill will be co-sponsored by Democratic Reps. Andrew Boesenecker and Meg Froelich. Boesenecker co-sponsored the state licensure bill last year, while Froelich and Sullivan backed the measure to increase the investigative bureau?s budget to pursue illegal gun sales.

?What we?re able to recognize pretty clearly is that particular kinds of firearms, when paired with a high-capacity magazine, have a lethality that are just unparalleled,? Boesenecker said.

The Capitol?s minority Republicans, who have uniformly opposed gun control bills in recent years, almost certainly will oppose the measure. Republican lawmakers have railed against previous legislation, including the more sweeping assault weapons ban proposals, as government overreach and infringements on the Second Amendment.

On Friday, Rocky Mountain Gun Owners executive director Ian Escalante said his group is ?absolutely going to oppose this bill,? which he argued violated the U.S. Constitution. He said the organization will probably file a lawsuit challenging it, should it pass.

?Realistically, you might as well try to ban these firearms,? he said, referring to Sullivan?s bill as a de facto ban on the weapons. ?All manufacturers are going to have to remanufacture these firearms and make them with fixed magazines. I don?t know how that would work.?

Sullivan noted that Colorado voters in November passed a new tax on gun and ammunition sales ? which, he argued, showed voters? priorities.

?The people of the state of Colorado have mandated that our legislators do something about the public health crisis that is gun violence, and that?s what we?re going to do,? he said. ?It?d be great if we had partners in that from the minority party, from the industry. I haven?t seen that (yet), going on my seventh year down here at the General Assembly.?

[.455_Hunter]

So in summary it's a ban on any detachable magazine semiauto rifles?

[Oscar77]

So in summary it's a ban on any detachable magazine semiauto rifles?

This is headed towards the California style non-detachable magazines............ so as if the magazine is in place and can not be rapidly replaced with another................. The name escapes me at the moment.
That is what Sullivan wants.
".....If manufacturers and gun owners want to continue selling and using the weapons, Sullivan said, they would need to adjust to firearms that can only be loaded slowly, bullet by bullet, from the top of the weapon ? not through detachable magazines......."

So you can still sell AR's but the magazine can't be readily removed, basically have it pinned in place.

[kidicarus13]

This is headed towards the California style non-detachable magazines............ so as if the magazine is in place and can not be rapidly replaced with another................. The name escapes me at the moment.
That is what Sullivan wants.

So you can still sell AR's but the magazine can't be readily removed, basically have it pinned in place. [/COLOR]

Similiar to the NY SAFE Act in regards to non-detachable magazines. There are all kinds of gimmicks out there to try to speed up reloading, but hopefully we are not talking about those gimmicks come May.

https://youtu.be/Wz_rmunf6kU?si=TkQ2So04lO8Ol0X6

[Oscar77]

Similiar to the NY SAFE Act in regards to non-detachable magazines. There are all kinds of gimmicks out there to try to speed up reloading, but hopefully we are not talking about those gimmicks come May.

https://youtu.be/Wz_rmunf6kU?si=TkQ2So04lO8Ol0X6

Yes.......... That sort of true nonsense.

I HATE trying to apply logic and reason to these things.
I HATE EVEN MORE trying to decipher these legal issues thru a poorly written news article.

That said.............. maybe they are going to "grand father" this like the magazines.................. "..anyone who possessed the weapons before a ban went into effect could keep them....."
Which of course is funny because in this same article, they point out the failure of the magazine law to stop their sales.

[zulu01]

Is it just rifles or any semi-auto with a detachable mag?

[.455_Hunter]

The proposal does not cover standard handguns or shotguns...

... but would appear to include guns like the Mini-14, Remington 740-series, Marlin Camp 9/45, Henry Homesteader, etc. The M1 Garand, SKS, and CA OK breakopen ARs would theoretically be acceptable, but who knows with these Karens.

[XJ]

Fuck Karens

[def90]

Odd that Sullivan had a problem with a blanket assault weapons ban last year but is sponsoring a bill this year which is pretty much the same thing.

Assuming this is because last year was an election year and that is what the underlying motive is.