Upcoming legislative session..

[eddiememphis]

According to the wording of the bill, it's about suicide prevention.

If one if feeling like a gun in the mouth is the only option, you can get online and tell the CBI you shouldn't be able to buy one.

Then if you try it anyway, you will be denied and the people on your contact list will be notified and you will be fined $25.

I don't foresee the suicide rate plummeting because of this bill, but if it saves one life, isn't it worth it???

[theGinsue]

According to the wording of the bill, it's about suicide prevention.

If one if feeling like a gun in the mouth is the only option, you can get online and tell the CBI you shouldn't be able to buy one.

Then if you try it anyway, you will be denied and the people on your contact list will be notified and you will be fined $25.

I don't foresee the suicide rate plummeting because of this bill, but if it saves one life, isn't it worth it???

If those supporting this legislation actually believe this will help the problem, they're fools. If this is actually their motivation, it's a "feel good" measure with zero focus on the unintended consequences.

What they're failing to consider it that those who are contemplating suicide aren't of the right mind to think to use such a program. Even if they did use it, if the person is truly suicidal, they would find another way to complete the job (intentional overdose, slicing wrists, driving their car off a bridge, jumping off a tall building, etc.). A firearm isn't their only option. If I was suicidal/homicidal (for the record, I'm neither!), I wouldn't let my ability to possess a firearm hinder my goal, and neither will anyone else who is of that mind.

At best this is typical liberal feel good "guns are the root of the problem" thinking. At worst, this is an 'anti-gun with expected forced compliance' measure.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Yea! We can be the sacrificial lamb? he calls it the worst gun law in the US?.



Still hoping for a quadfecta of certain on Monday.

I think the inside baseball is that Paul is inherently doesn?t want to sign any thing like this because of the controversial nature, even more Sophie knows it?s going to get smacked down and nullified causing problems with the national campaign.

The bad news is that any damn who replaces him is not going to have any kind of reluctance to sign anti gun laws. We have gone from a red state to one of the worst blue states. It?s only going to get worse as all of those California fire refugees move here with all of their money. I thought about buying a cabin up in the mountains, but this kind of silliness is pushing me to accelerate my plans to get out of the state. The fact that real estate values in Denver have stalled out because of crime and bad management is another reason to pop smoke and get the hell out of here.

[DDT951]

If those supporting this legislation actually believe this will help the problem, they're fools. If this is actually their motivation, it's a "feel good" measure with zero focus on the unintended consequences.

What they're failing to consider it that those who are contemplating suicide aren't of the right mind to think to use such a program. Even if they did use it, if the person is truly suicidal, they would find another way to complete the job (intentional overdose, slicing wrists, driving their car off a bridge, jumping off a tall building, etc.). A firearm isn't their only option. If I was suicidal/homicidal (for the record, I'm neither!), I wouldn't let my ability to possess a firearm hinder my goal, and neither will anyone else who is of that mind.

At best this is typical liberal feel good "guns are the root of the problem" thinking. At worst, this is an 'anti-gun with expected forced compliance' measure.

The most common method of suicide in Germany is the train.....

It is bad when an ICE gets held up for an investigation and then people miss their flights....

[Oscar77]

Agreed!

Here's a novel idea for waiving your 2A rights (this may seem extreme to some so bear with me):
If you don't want to exercise your 2A rights, don't buy or acquire a firearm.
Pretty simple and avoids the need to involve the legislative process.

As already stated, this isn't about "voluntary" waiving of rights, this is to facilitate coerced waiving of your rights.

While I agree that SB 25-034 is stupid and pretty much a waste of time and effort:

Both you and DDT need to slow-your-roll on the this-is the-end-of the-world stuff.......................... it isn't.
This isn't about or will end up being anything close to some forced giving up of your 2A rights.
Thats the red-flag laws............. this is just nonsense.
Besides this will never pass, so this argument is moot.

[DDT951]

While I agree that SB 25-034 is stupid and pretty much a waste of time and effort:

Both you and DDT need to slow-your-roll on the this-is the-end-of the-world stuff.......................... it isn't.
This isn't about or will end up being anything close to some forced giving up of your 2A rights.
Thats the red-flag laws............. this is just nonsense.
Besides this will never pass, so this argument is moot.

I disagree.

Red flag laws have restrictions around them and they are not "voluntary".

Why would we need a law where someone calls CBI and fills out an on-line form surrendering 2A rights? It makes no sense unless they want to "volun-force" people.

I dont know about anyone on the this forum that needed to call CBI, so that they don't buy a gun.

When I was married, the biggest obstacle to buying a gun was a wife. That was who I had to call for rejection of buying a gun.

If you dont want to buy a gun, simply dont buy one. No need one call CBI.

If you think I am being paranoid, explain the need to the law for me other than "volun-force" people into it.

Keeping that in mind, explain it along with banning sale/manufacture/transfer of EVERY semi auto centerfire rifle in the state.

[FoxtArt]

I'll explain the law.

Bored suburban karen wants to pat themselves on the back for saving someone from suicide, and has a brilliant idea where if they are sad, they can fill out a form that will protect them from the evils of self harm. They applaud their own genius, and hold their head high as they demand to see the manager at their next establishment, because their bag didn't have ketchup packets. Then they return home to chair the HOA, spending the rest of the evening measuing the length of grass blades throughout their neighborhood.



Not everything has a big overarching master plan, unfortunately a tremendous amount of government is exactly the above.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I think the age of stupid and clunky anti-gun laws is over. Whoever they have on the other side, actually understands the firearms and they are playing the long game by passing pieces of legislation that they can eventually link together. They still haven’t quite gotten to the point of realizing or being able to pass a real registration. I think that’s because they realize they’ll never be able to confiscate this many guns. They’ll just make them illegal and have you deal with the consequences, and stop new sales so that after a generation, they’re all gone anyway.. At least for law, abiding people. We still have the same number of guns, but they’ll be more concentrated in actual criminal hands. Won’t that be fun.

The Supreme Court is still angling to take an assault weapons bans and a magazine ban case this next term. I think Paul is a smart enough politician to put the kibosh on this if there is no real gain, and only potential pain for a national run for him. of course, that makes it more likely for the other gun stuff to get through. The gun grabbers have put up the assault weapons bans as a way to make sure that their other stuff actually gets through.

[eddiememphis]

https://completecolorado.com/2025/01...ng-coloradans/

Senate Bill 3 flagrantly violates both the U.S. and Colorado constitutions, the latter of which affirms “the right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property . . . shall be called in question. . .” That the bill would not survive judicial scrutiny seems not to matter at all to the bill’s sponsors, who apparently enjoy throwing taxpayer dollars into losing efforts to legally defend the indefensible.

We should ask people in law enforcement to focus their energies on people who have committed rights-violating crimes or who have threatened to do so. We should not ask people in law enforcement to spend their time and resources hounding people who have harmed no one. With its blanket gun sales bans, Senate Bill 3 is a step in the wrong direction.

[.455_Hunter]

https://completecolorado.com/2025/01...ng-coloradans/

Senate Bill 3 flagrantly violates both the U.S. and Colorado constitutions, the latter of which affirms ?the right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property . . . shall be called in question. . .? That the bill would not survive judicial scrutiny seems not to matter at all to the bill?s sponsors, who apparently enjoy throwing taxpayer dollars into losing efforts to legally defend the indefensible.

We should ask people in law enforcement to focus their energies on people who have committed rights-violating crimes or who have threatened to do so. We should not ask people in law enforcement to spend their time and resources hounding people who have harmed no one. With its blanket gun sales bans, Senate Bill 3 is a step in the wrong direction.

Lovely that the guy wants to throw the rights of 18-25 year olds into the trash.