"Assault weapon" ban 2025 version

[eddiememphis]

This whole thing is a fustercluck. Given that a federal judge just ruled the Illinois FOID card to be unconstitutional, this disaster clearly won't pass the smell test...

It's not a FOID.

It is a card issued by a sheriff, after submitting two copies of the applicants fingerprints to the CBI to do a background check, that gives the holder permission to take a 12 hour, 2 day class and take a test. If passed with 90% or greater correct answers, the instructor enters that info into a database which an FFL can access during the purchase of a firearm that meet the criteria in other parts of the bill- for now.

The Director of the CBI gets to set the new background check fee and keep the fingerprints on file. The sheriffs get to set their own fees, but can't be too low, ya know. The Division of Parks and Wildlife get to set their own fee for the class. They also get to set the curriculum which will include information about safe storage and child safety, firearm deaths and extreme risk protection orders, along with victim awareness, and of course, empathy. The treasury gets to create the firearms training and safety course cash fund. The fees from the safety course go to this fund. What does the fund fund? Operation of the new system!

Simple!

[def90]

So fingerprinted and a background check to get the card but I'm sure that the card will not qualify you to actually be able to buy a firearm without another background check.

[MED]

So fingerprinted and a background check to get the card but I'm sure that the card will not qualify you to actually be able to buy a firearm without another background check.

Yep, just like all the enhanced requirements, proficiency testing, fingerprints, and background check to carry a concealed handgun doesn't allow a person to buy a firearm without another background check or waiting period nor to satisfy all the BS of this new legislation.

Next up you'll need another card with similar requirements to buy ammo....on and on until you have a full 52 deck.

[Eric P]

Is the card for new or existing firearms?

Doesn't matter. Shall not comply either way.

[Doc45]

This used to be a really great state. If my sons and grandkids weren’t here I’d be gone when I retire in a few months-broken record and preaching to the choir I know.

[FoxtArt]

The card is only for new firearms (after September 2025). And certain firearms are exempt from even that requirement, the list reads like an arbitrary list from a video game, for instance, M1 Carbine, G-43, SVT-40, Springfield M1A, are not subject to the "ban" and wouldn't need a training card. (Although most FFLs out of sheer regulatory terror would probably require one and check regardless). It also exempts C&R, which many of the weapons identified in the list are already.... so IDK, typical contradictory authoring by people inexperienced in drafting bills as well as understanding firearms.

ETA: Also Inheritance does not require a training card under this act. The way I read it on first pass, I believe the approved list of instructors for CCW can also provide these training courses. Some counties, that's VERY easy to get on the approved list of instructors.

[electronman1729]

The card is only for new firearms (after September 2025). And certain firearms are exempt from even that requirement, the list reads like an arbitrary list from a video game, for instance, M1 Carbine, G-43, SVT-40, Springfield M1A, are not subject to the "ban" and wouldn't need a training card. (Although most FFLs out of sheer regulatory terror would probably require one and check regardless). It also exempts C&R, which many of the weapons identified in the list are already.... so IDK, typical contradictory authoring by people inexperienced in drafting bills as well as understanding firearms.

ETA: Also Inheritance does not require a training card under this act. The way I read it on first pass, I believe the approved list of instructors for CCW can also provide these training courses. Some counties, that's VERY easy to get on the approved list of instructors.

What about AR-15's that are now C&R?

[FoxtArt]

What about AR-15's that are now C&R?

Both C&R and Antique are exempt. No further cake cutting, so yes. However- like mentioned, getting a LGS or corp store clerk to understand the tossed word salad is a battle that might be unwinnable and they likely will want a card regardless.

[stodg73]

Seems like this is a pay for your rights...

[theGinsue]

Has anyone been able to decipher the difference between the "basic" and "Extended" safety courses other than the instruction time required?

From a legal perspective, what does the extended course provide that the basic does not?