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[Oscar77]

Reading this one:

Colorado Senate passes bills on firearm ammunition, gun show rules

That SB on gun shows essentially means the end of them............. due to go into effect 1 Jan 2026.

Unless it gets killed................

I mean, reading it, shows will require all sorts of plans and registered vendors, and If I am reading it right, ONLY vendors with an FFL and State license can sell modern firearms.

[JohnnyDrama]

The latest raft of anti gun bills has been an all out attempt to eliminate the gun culture in Colorado.

[Oscar77]

The latest raft of anti gun bills has been an all out attempt to eliminate the gun culture in Colorado.

Oh yes, I was being sarcastic.
I didn't bother reading carefully that gun show bill......... but with all the forms and registration blah blah blah............... yes, make it too tedious to continue.
Slowly strangle the sport.

[OneGuy67]

An amendment to the original bill has language that is confusing to me regarding that issue.

"(b) "GUN SHOW VENDOR" DOES NOT INCLUDE A PERSON WHO IS NOT A FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE WHO SELLS, OFFERS FOR SALE, OR TRANSFERS A FIREARM TO, OR EXCHANGES A FIREARM WITH, A GUN SHOW VENDOR WHO IS A FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE AT A GUN SHOW, INCLUDING TRANSFERRING A FIREARM TO A GUN SHOW VENDOR WHO IS A FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE FOR SALE ON CONSIGNMENT OR TO FACILITATE A PRIVATE FIREARM TRANSFER.".

So in the definition, those who participate in gun shows who sell items that are not firearms, would not be considered a gun show vendor per their definition and thus, not subject to the requirements put forth for gun show vendors?

It is very confusing to me.

[eddiememphis]

An amendment to the original bill has language that is confusing to me regarding that issue.

"(b) "GUN SHOW VENDOR" DOES NOT INCLUDE A PERSON WHO IS NOT A FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE WHO SELLS, OFFERS FOR SALE, OR TRANSFERS A FIREARM TO, OR EXCHANGES A FIREARM WITH, A GUN SHOW VENDOR WHO IS A FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE AT A GUN SHOW, INCLUDING TRANSFERRING A FIREARM TO A GUN SHOW VENDOR WHO IS A FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEE FOR SALE ON CONSIGNMENT OR TO FACILITATE A PRIVATE FIREARM TRANSFER.".

So in the definition, those who participate in gun shows who sell items that are not firearms, would not be considered a gun show vendor per their definition and thus, not subject to the requirements put forth for gun show vendors?

It is very confusing to me.

That means someone at a show who sells a gun TO a vendor or leaves it for consignment, is not considered a "GUN SHOW VENDOR".

[Oscar77]

That means someone at a show who sells a gun TO a vendor or leaves it for consignment, is not considered a "GUN SHOW VENDOR".

This........ as I read it.
But as I read it, a private person can go to a show and sell to a Vendor (FFL) but you can't set up as a Vendor as you dont have an FFL.
Somehow though you can magically conduct a private firearms transfer thru an FFL.
So you can walk around with a gun for sale, but not have a table.
Or something................ ???

[OneGuy67]

That means someone at a show who sells a gun TO a vendor or leaves it for consignment, is not considered a "GUN SHOW VENDOR".

I think you are right in your assessment. With roughly 50% of the current show vendors being non-FFL holders, this will effectively wipe out the gun show as it exists now, possibly for good. The vendors selling holsters, optics, gun parts, t-shirts, coffee cups, food and the like, fill the show tables. Without them, the shows won't make it.

[eddiememphis]

I think you are right in your assessment. With roughly 50% of the current show vendors being non-FFL holders, this will effectively wipe out the gun show as it exists now, possibly for good. The vendors selling holsters, optics, gun parts, t-shirts, coffee cups, food and the like, fill the show tables. Without them, the shows won't make it.

Why? They don't need an ffl to sell kettlecorn or any of the things you mentioned. These rule don't include them.

This new legislation seem to mostly affect the promoter, not the vendors. Since Tanner is the only game in town, they will need to be in compliance with more people enforcing the age limit and ammo lockup.

[OneGuy67]

Why? They don't need an ffl to sell kettlecorn or any of the things you mentioned. These rule don't include them.

This new legislation seem to mostly affect the promoter, not the vendors. Since Tanner is the only game in town, they will need to be in compliance with more people enforcing the age limit and ammo lockup.

Because the language of the bill is very specific as to what a vendor at the gun show is and must do.

"The bill prohibits a person from participating in a gun show as a gun show vendor if the person is not a federal firearms licencee, does not hold a valid state firearms dealer permit, has been convicted of a second offense of unlawful gunT show vendor activity as described in the bill, or has not completed a gun show certification for the gun show promoter as required in the bill. Unlawful participation in a gun show as a gun show vendor is a class 2 misdemeanor; except that a second or subsequent offense is a class 1 misdemeanor."

[eddiememphis]

How many people go to gun shows to sell guns that aren't FFLs?

I haven't been to one in years so I don't know the makeup of individual sellers wandering about versus FFLs that buy a booth.