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    So FFLs can sell beef jerky, but those that sell beef jerky can't sell at gun shows ...without a FFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    So FFLs can sell beef jerky, but those that sell beef jerky can't sell at gun shows ...without a FFL.
    Seems like it…
    Imagine when vendors who sell beef jerky cannot sell elk, deer, moose, antelope jerky, without having a carcus tag visibly presented….
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    In the definitions section under the definition for a gun show the include this: "A GUN COLLECTORS SHOW MAY 24 ALSO INCLUDE VENDORS THAT SELL PRODUCTS THAT ARE NOT FIREARMS."

    I belive that the way the bill is worded that any vendor that is buying/selling firearms needs to be certified as a gun show vendor by the gun show promoter as to their FFL status and those vendors then have to comply with the requirements of the bill as a gun show vendor as in displaying their FFL license and adhering to the requirements of having the firearms secured to the table or wall and so on. Anyone else selling random stuff at a gun show would not go through the certification process or need to comply with the bill requirements for gunshow vendors.

    The certification process is listed at 18-12-504 and the show requirements for a gun show vendor are at 18-12-505.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    In the definitions section under the definition for a gun show the include this: "A GUN COLLECTORS SHOW MAY 24 ALSO INCLUDE VENDORS THAT SELL PRODUCTS THAT ARE NOT FIREARMS."

    I belive that the way the bill is worded that any vendor that is buying/selling firearms needs to be certified as a gun show vendor by the gun show promoter as to their FFL status and those vendors then have to comply with the requirements of the bill as a gun show vendor as in displaying their FFL license and adhering to the requirements of having the firearms secured to the table or wall and so on. Anyone else selling random stuff at a gun show would not go through the certification process or need to comply with the bill requirements for gunshow vendors.

    The certification process is listed at 18-12-504 and the show requirements for a gun show vendor are at 18-12-505.
    The CRS you list is current statute; the bill is going to change the statute. The bill carves out and defines a gun collector show as a C&R show and defines it as not being a gun show and allows non-firearm vendors as indicated by what you posted. However, there is no like carve out for the defined gun shows. It very specifically defines what a gun show vendor is and what is required to be a vendor and there is no carve out or definition for a non-firearm vendor.

    I've previously contacted my Senator concerning this and it appears my understanding of the language of the statute is also his understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    How many people go to gun shows to sell guns that aren't FFLs?

    I haven't been to one in years so I don't know the makeup of individual sellers wandering about versus FFLs that buy a booth.
    I've seen a couple over the years who are there to sell their father's gun collection and have made an agreement with the vendor on the next table to do their background checks. As long as they have the background check conducted, it was perfectly within the legal boundaries and it provided a means to negotiate a sale outside of the FFL vendor who needs to buy it at a lower price to be able to put it on their table and sell for a profit.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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