Trumps visit to the U.A.E.

[flogger]

Just wondering what everyone thinks about Trumps visit to the UAE and the whole maxed-out 747 gift from the Saudi's to the American People. Trump also finalized some Boeing sales of F-15's the prince signed off on. The Left is having a fit, as usual, with no lack of MSM ass kissing. The shameless crap that OAC, Jasmine and other spineless speaking heads of the Democratic party is not helping their cause.

Everyday seems to have another '...you have to be kidding me....!?' moment in the news.

[rfenster]

The 747 was a personal gift to Donald Trump, not to America. He should be impeached for it.

I heard it on the radio and on the TV.

I did not hear much about on the radio or the on the TV about all of the awesome inroads he has made with both our allies and our adversaries while on this trip.

[Wolfshoon]

[Bailey Guns]

The 747 was a personal gift to Donald Trump, not to America. He should be impeached for it.

I heard it on the radio and on the TV.

I did not hear much about on the radio or the on the TV about all of the awesome inroads he has made with both our allies and our adversaries while on this trip.

That's nonsense. It was a gift from the Qatari government that will be given to the DoD. I don't see it as an ethical issue. I see it as a security issue. With the amount of time and money it will take to upgrade the plane to AF1 standards I'm not sure it saves much in the long run.

[rfenster]

I think that it could be a ploy to get Boeing to speed up their delivery of the two new Air Force Ones that were ordered back in 2018.

Delivery date has slipped over the years, first to 2025, then 2026/2027 and now they aren't expected until 2029 or later.

I don't believe that using a 747-8 from a foreign govt as a Presidential transport is wise at all... As Bailey Guns mentioned it will take a lot of time and $$ to upgrade it, and we would never know until it is too late if we found all of those lines of code that may of may not have been added to the flight control system.

[eddiememphis]

Is it like when you win a car on The Price is Right and can opt for a cash prize instead?

[FoxtArt]

That's nonsense. It was a gift from the Qatari government that will be given to the DoD. I don't see it as an ethical issue.

So, used exlusively by Trump as AF1, equipped with opulent luxery and taking tremendous taxpayer money to retrofit, and then given to the e.g. "trump library", is a honest to goodness, gift to the DOD, and not intended to obtain political benefit of any kind, courting trump with favors. Gotcha.

Also Clinton got a (compartatively very inexpensive) helicopter after leaving office, so that means Trump should be able to receive the quintessential equivalent of a bribe (albet, publically), in the order of half a billion dollars, without any objection while serving as POTUS.

This is the fundamental problem with American politics, including evangelicals and the right, as well as the left. Whatever morals are asserted to be had, whatever foundation, platform, values, and very mores, fly out the window when the party gets wrapped up into personality. The core of MAGA is Trump, and the politics cannot be dissected from him. So, whatever Trump does, has to be justified, and "right", regardless of any former idology or values previously asserted to be held.

I'm a fiscal conservative, which is a party that doesn't exist anymore. There is nothing OK about this.

[FoxtArt]

I'll also add - props to his supporters that call a spade, a spade with regard to this. Not all of MAGA has combined personality with politics. Unfortunately, there is likely not enough people to have sufficient accountability in anything at this point in time.

[Oscar77]

So, used exlusively by Trump as AF1, equipped with opulent luxery and taking tremendous taxpayer money to retrofit, and then given to the e.g. "trump library", is a honest to goodness, gift to the DOD, and not intended to obtain political benefit of any kind, courting trump with favors. Gotcha.

Also Clinton got a (compartatively very inexpensive) helicopter after leaving office, so that means Trump should be able to receive the quintessential equivalent of a bribe (albet, publically), in the order of half a billion dollars, without any objection while serving as POTUS.

This is the fundamental problem with American politics, including evangelicals and the right, as well as the left. Whatever morals are asserted to be had, whatever foundation, platform, values, and very mores, fly out the window when the party gets wrapped up into personality. The core of MAGA is Trump, and the politics cannot be dissected from him. So, whatever Trump does, has to be justified, and "right", regardless of any former idology or values previously asserted to be held.

I'm a fiscal conservative, which is a party that doesn't exist anymore. There is nothing OK about this.

Sure, I agree with you to an extent........ but, and I fully respect your differing opinion, but I also realize that TDS is alive and well in alot of people and maybe you.
US Politicians receiving gifts is nothing new, even hugely expensive ones.
It's what they do with them is the true question here............. IF IF President Trump actuality, NO FOR REALS, start using the thing as his personal A/C, then yes, It'd be very unethical for him to do so.
But it's not a bride, it's wrong and stupid but not a bride.


In the mean time, and we've been thru this for what?.......5yrs now.........?????
The core issue with TDS and its sufferers is that they LOSE THEIR F-ING minds every time he says something.
So for now, he's accepted (supposedly) this gift from them?
So who the f-k cares?
Unless or until he actually starts flying around in the thing, all you are doing is giving him free attention and air time.
And like wise, if he truly does accept this plane but it ends up parked on some tarmac somewhere unused and rusting...........you'll forget all this outrage and move on the next thing he's said and continue to give him all this free press.

Which means the Dems will lose more elections.
So I hope they do keep giving him all this attention............
Oh Wait!!!
This is clearly grounds to impeach him, the Dems need to do that, it worked so well for them in the past.
Better yet, try to assassinate him, that'll teach him....... it wont back fire and make him a Cult Hero.

[clodhopper]

I think that it could be a ploy to get Boeing to speed up their delivery of the two new Air Force Ones that were ordered back in 2018.

Delivery date has slipped over the years, first to 2025, then 2026/2027 and now they aren't expected until 2029 or later.

Clear benefits of cost plus govermental procurement.