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    The part that has always kinda baffled me with federal land is PILT funding. Just feels like another back door tax scheme.

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    This was nuked by the senate rulemaker by the way, so not happening.

    In the future, something to remember is even if it's 1% of 0.5% of federal lands, that's not random. There would be zero acres sold in the butthole of Nevada.

    What would be sold is the prime and proftable tracks in national forest, adjacent to national parks, adjacent to good development areas (Grand Junction, Montrose, Salt Lake, etc.), likely prime free camping locations, etc...

    It isn't going to be 40 acres of cheap land you or I could buy, it would be the Federal land that people with lobbying $ REALLY BADLY WANT. Things like, for instance, land adjacent to the Tetons. Or prime riverfront, waterfalls, campsites, caves, who knows. Things that real $ buys, not paltry peasant salaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    This was nuked by the senate rulemaker by the way, so not happening.

    In the future, something to remember is even if it's 1% of 0.5% of federal lands, that's not random. There would be zero acres sold in the butthole of Nevada.

    What would be sold is the prime and proftable tracks in national forest, adjacent to national parks, adjacent to good development areas (Grand Junction, Montrose, Salt Lake, etc.), likely prime free camping locations, etc...

    It isn't going to be 40 acres of cheap land you or I could buy, it would be the Federal land that people with lobbying $ REALLY BADLY WANT. Things like, for instance, land adjacent to the Tetons. Or prime riverfront, waterfalls, campsites, caves, who knows. Things that real $ buys, not paltry peasant salaries.
    Happy for that. My feelings echo yours. Too much corruption. I wrote to our esteemed (sic) senators before I posted this and only Bennet replied,
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    Well... nobody really talks about this much, but between the national debt, federal budget deficit, bailouts, superbills, and Biden running the money presses 24/7 during COVID, the economy is bankrupt. We just kinda sorta pretend it's not.

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    One thing I hear from various people online is that this would help pay off the national debt but what is overlooked in Lee's proposal is that this land isn't being sold by the Federal Government to the end buyer, it is being given to State and Local Governments who in turn would be the agencies doing the final sale. What does this mean? The release of Federal land to the States does nothing to pay towards the National Debt.

    Here's Lee's own quote on this issue: "“Washington has proven time and again it can’t manage this land. This bill puts it in better hands,” Lee said last Thursday."

    Lee and other Utah Senetors and Reps have been pushing this for years as a means to help put more money in the pockets of their local land developers.

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    All very true and valid comments about why this was a VERY bad idea.

    To these comments, I will add this: American citizens get the enjoyment of the land while it's under federal management. Once this land converts to some other ownership/management, NONE of us will ever be able to enjoy this land.
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