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    How do you spot a shoplifter?

    In today's society, you often times can't. If I were profiling, about the only (mostly) safe guess is that the 83 year old grandmother probably isn't.

    The greatest generation is gone.

    Are their hippies shoplifting in their 60's and 70's? Some, Yes.

    Rich white kids? Some, Yes.

    Poor rednecks? Some, yes.

    Minorities? Some, yes.

    Gen Z: Proportionally a bit more.

    I am not sure if you guys are pragmatic or not, but we live in a new world where the average salary to afford a house is about 140k/year, and mores have degraded due to a counter-balancing social movement that has diminished the wrong of theft on the personal level for more folk.

    Sure, you can spot the guy with a cart full of steaks and laundry detergent. But you're not spotting the 50 other people who shoplifted in various ways besides that.

    So how does retail diminish losses? They have to put mild barriers in place to diminish enough motivation so those 50 other people don't put forth the effort.

    Mr. Beezlo running out shirtless with 50 steaks and twenty containers of tide isn't affected by any of it.

    But the Gen Z kid trying to swap a Nintendo switch for apples by weight is.

    It's not the end of the world or an affront to firearms violations. Strictly speaking, I don't comply if the store hasn't done it correctly (e.g. signs etc.), but it's not a hill I'm dying on either, because it is a real problem, and it's only going to be getting worse (shoplifting). Methods to mitigate it could be far, far more aggressive... think San Fransisco style fully-locked retail shelves.
    But hey, they probably don't have to check receipts at the door.

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    Maybe the only solution is an old time solution. You hand a clerk a shopping list to fetch. Then you pay and get handed the merch.

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    Curious how this doctrine will affect those that just don’t give a shit about their receipt (me)? I rarely bother to grab it.
    How about those that opt for email receipts? (I know Kroger doesn’t use that option yet)
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    My last trip to the less than desirable KS closest to me (which I try to avoid) the security guard was more friendly and helpful than the store employees. It took me about 3x longer at self checkout than it should have.

    Just. Open. More. Checkout. Lanes.

    Seems simple enough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post

    Just. Open. More. Checkout. Lanes.

    Seems simple enough...

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    It's 2025, no one wants to work. Can't hire enough people to staff most retail stores. Even those that are 100% staffed cannot get their employees to come to work (e.g. call-outs, sick, "emergencies", etc)

    I already spent my tax refund, so when are we supposed to get 2025 stimulus checks? Any other gov't check will also suffice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    My last trip to the less than desirable KS closest to me (which I try to avoid) the security guard was more friendly and helpful than the store employees. It took me about 3x longer at self checkout than it should have.

    Just. Open. More. Checkout. Lanes.

    Seems simple enough...

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    You have to pay for all those employees running around fulfilling online orders for the people too damn lazy to actually go into the store do their own shopping. The "convenience" of those who use the online pickup order and park in the saved covered parking spots and pop their trunk for the employee to load their groceries into the trunk and never get out of their vehicle. For each one of those employees, a checkout lane needs to close. We all get to pay for your laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    There are better ways to respond than treating every customer as a suspect.

    This is one of the tenets of Leftism- Social Equality.

    True equality can only be achieved by dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator. Instead of going after shady characters who look like they are going to steal, otherwise known as racial or social profiling, they treat everyone as a criminal, thereby appearing egalitarian.

    This is guilty until proven innocent. The guard's glance at a receipt doesn't stop crime - it's conditioning. It normalizes compliance, the idea that everyone is a suspect.

    It feels very Soviet: not about solving problems, but about reminding you who's in charge. And that's what I don't like.

    And for those saying "what's the big deal, it's just a receipt check," ask yourself this: what's the difference between treating every shopper as a thief because a few people steal, and banning all ARs because one lunatic went on a spree? One is a private business policy and the other is government overreach. But the mindset is the same

    In both cases, the innocent majority are punished for the actions of a tiny minority. It's easier to blanket everyone than to target the real problem. And that's exactly the kind of lazy, heavy-handed thinking I don't want to see normalized.
    We are well past an innocent majority. We have a society today that is rife with crime, and that is increasingly brazen and cannot be stopped.

    I'm reminded of the movie, Raising Arizona, where this dude goes crazy to get his child some diapers.

    This is due to the fact that life is unafforable for many people today. Government, has spent so freely, that normal people cannot afford to live.

    The people that are stealing from King Soopers, are not doing this because they are evil, but rather they need to do this to survive.

    And that is why it is right for King Soopers to fight back. King Soopers is not the Government. The Government should be helping people survive. Not King Soopers.

    There is nothing Soviet about this, other than people are hurting, and stealing, and the store is trying to stop them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post

    The people that are stealing from King Soopers, are not doing this because they are evil, but rather they need to do this to survive.
    People steal from King Soopers and beg on street corners do so because it's easier than working, and in most cases, pays better also.
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