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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehaus View Post
    When was the last time a 3rd party person came close to winning a percentage close to the Republicans or Democrats? Ross Perot?

    That?s how Clinton was elected.

    You can argue semantics, but generally you have the Republicans/ Conservatives or the Democrats/ Liberals to vote for who actually have a chance of winning the election.

    I understand your point and it?s not necessarily wrong, but it?s idealistic. I?m a realist.

    I remember in 2008 at the intersection of Wads & I-70 in Arvada there would be protesters every weekend protesting Bush and the Iraq war.

    Obama won and no more protesters. Did the war stop? Did the bombs and killing of children stop? No. Their candidate was elected and that?s all that mattered. That?s the liberal hive mind at work. That is who we are up against.


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    Your stated stance actually proves my point. You vote party lines and nothing will ever change because your voting FOR the current broken way of doing things. Doing the same thing that's always been done and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity. You're happy with the way things have gone? If not, why keep voting for the same way of doing things? Like it or not, your vote for the (R) party is a vote of approval, tepid as you may think it is. My vote couldn't be more clear as to how NOT a vote for either (D) or (R) it is. If more people did it and that low percentage you talk about went up... things would change as soon as others saw it was a viable option. That won't happen if nobody votes their mind and just votes so "they other guy" doesn't win.

    Now just imagine if BOTH sides of the aisle who claim their party no longer represents them (or any other sane member of their party) actually voted logically for the person who was the best candidate. This idea that you can only vote (D) or (R) even if you don't like the candidate is quite literally the ONLY reason we don't have any other choices. I fully understand that my vote may be "wasted" in your eyes but it's my vote. Fortunately, as stated, I don't care what others think about how I voted. I voted for the person best for the job because I firmly believe that's the vision by which this country was founded. I sleep like a baby at night knowing that. I have zero reservations about voting for the person I believe best fits the role of the leader of these United States.

    I just wish others who consider themselves Americans would take the same logical approach and stop overthinking themselves into voting for the same crappy government. Politics as usual. So many of them are 100% unwilling to compromise in any way... until it comes to the most important aspect of our nation. Then they get all "well, I compromised because I'm realist" and other such lame excuses for not having the courage to vote as 100% uncompromising as they claim to do everything else. Not sure how they sleep at night voting for a candidate that isn't the best one on the ballot simply because of party affiliation but... here we are. That seems pretty un-American.

    Somehow many have convinced themselves that this is the most logical approach. For me, it seems to make the least logical sense for a single person to be that concerned about everyone how else is voting and then basing their decision solely on that data point. I vote for who I think is the best candidate and if others did the same we'd be in a better place in term of options. I know I keep saying that same thing but even as basic if an idea it seems to be lost upon a majority of voters so it seems that it needs to be said repeatedly. For me, I value this country FAR more than any political party. Not sure why anyone would choose a political party over the country, especially when said party has shown it will choose itself over the country at every possible turn.

    Do you think if George Washington were alive today he'd be urging people to vote for a crappy candidate of one party just to block the other party from winning? No chance.
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