The ONE gun for SHTF

[Troublco]

I like ARs but hunting is out with them. Like in that movie "I am Legend" the guy is hunting deer with his AR without much success.

I don't believe this to be the case. My 6.5 Grendel was acquired specifically for Antelope, and I think it'll work well on deer and the occasional 'yote. I got my .458 SOCOM for Feral hogs, and it's a hog hammer! Those with a 6.8 can go up to deer size game, and I know folks that use .300 Whisper (or Fireball) on deer or feral pigs out to about 100-150 yards. In a survival situation, I believe with the right bullets and shot placement a .223 would take up to deer size game out to 200-300 yards depending on the bullet. There are also those AR's chambered in .223 WSM, .243 WSM, and .25 WSM. I don't think I'd try hunting with FMJ bullets in an A2 rifle, but the right bullet with a scoped gun should work; you'd just have to make sure you were within effective range for whatever caliber you've got.

[7.62x39(4)life]

I don't believe this to be the case. My 6.5 Grendel was acquired specifically for Antelope, and I think it'll work well on deer and the occasional 'yote. I got my .458 SOCOM for Feral hogs, and it's a hog hammer! Those with a 6.8 can go up to deer size game, and I know folks that use .300 Whisper (or Fireball) on deer or feral pigs out to about 100-150 yards. In a survival situation, I believe with the right bullets and shot placement a .223 would take up to deer size game out to 200-300 yards depending on the bullet. There are also those AR's chambered in .223 WSM, .243 WSM, and .25 WSM. I don't think I'd try hunting with FMJ bullets in an A2 rifle, but the right bullet with a scoped gun should work; you'd just have to make sure you were within effective range for whatever caliber you've got.

I didn't think of the hunting aspect of the one rifle scenairio... they dont make much hunting ammo in 5.54x39...or 7.62x39...

as far as 458 socom being a hog hammer... I think sledgehammer would be more accurate 300+grain bullet = lots of energy

[rhineoshott]

Actually, I'd probably go for a Magpul PDR...If I had one...If they existed. uses the 5.56 round in a 10-11" barrel. Standard mags. The gun is only about 20" long. Concealable under a coat with the right holster/sling gear. Pretty much can do a little of everything.

[Hoosier]

Actually, I'd probably go for a Magpul PDR...If I had one...If they existed. uses the 5.56 round in a 10-11" barrel. Standard mags. The gun is only about 20" long. Concealable under a coat with the right holster/sling gear. Pretty much can do a little of everything.

That PDR is interesting, I hadn't seen it before. Shares a lot of similarities with the P90.

I really like Bullpup designs, but I've herad the triggers can feel sloppy.

[rhineoshott]

That PDR is interesting, I hadn't seen it before. Shares a lot of similarities with the P90.

I really like Bullpup designs, but I've herad the triggers can feel sloppy.

That's what I've heard about the triggers, the only bullpup I've held would be the FN FS2000. The trigger wasn't very good, but some people have done a little work on them and got them to be pretty nice. I think it would be cool to have both an FN P90 and a Magpul PDR in .50 Beowulf next to eachother in a backpack, or under each arm.

Sorry to stray the thread...

[Cameron]

Probably my Recce


or the FAL


augmented by the shorty


If the SHTF I would probably be an example of Buridan's ass...

Cameron

[sniper7]

Probably my Recce


or the FAL


augmented by the shorty


If the SHTF I would probably be an example of Buridan's ass...

Cameron

as much as I like the recee and the looks of the fal, I definitely would take the shorty out of all those!