This really sucks! But we all KNOW that's there's plenty of IDIOTS in this world that would think nothing of firing up into the air, doing mag dumps as fast as they could just to make their dick feel big.
This really sucks! But we all KNOW that's there's plenty of IDIOTS in this world that would think nothing of firing up into the air, doing mag dumps as fast as they could just to make their dick feel big.
And so it goes. Everywhere that more than a few people gather will be shut down.
I see you running, tell me what your running from
Nobody's coming, what ya do that was so wrong.
Last time I was up there the spot was pretty clean...
This really sucks I enjoyed going to that spot![]()
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
Last time I've went there was about May2009. It was clean, safe, and orderly.
For what it's worth: “We are committed to finding a permanent solution to the safety concerns at the former Allenspark dump,” Forest Supervisor Glenn Casamassa said. “We will begin an environmental analysis to start this process by mid-May.” http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/arnf/news/20...rksafety.shtml
Of course this could mean they're committed to keeping it permanently closed, but the optimist in me hopes it means they want to allow shooting up there. I've only been up there twice but both times everyone shooting there was safe and considerate.
"A lot of people seem obliged to have a viewpoint."
Having seen first hand how they work I can tell you right now that the area will never be opened back up.
IF and this is a big IF you bitch long enough and loud enough they might send you a list of gun clubs that have "public" days.
I will not go into detail but unless you have $$$ and lawyers involved this is now a closed issue.
I see you running, tell me what your running from
Nobody's coming, what ya do that was so wrong.
I suspect this will end when the forest service decides to designate a couple of locations for shooting and hires some people to run them. Other states I've lived in have done this and then had a $25 dollar annual permit to shoot at these locations. The guy that ran the one I shot at regularly wasn't always out there, but the area was open from sun up to sun down 7 days a week. He was almost always there during peak shooting hours, but was pretty liberal about the shooting. It was a win for everyone. Shooters respected the area and cleaned their trash or got their card pulled. Conversely, if you didn't act like an idiot he left you alone. He also had direct access to call for medical or LE if they were needed for injury or altercation.
Until accomidations are made by both sides of this issue, it will continue on an adversarial circle; forest service will continue to close areas like this due to complaints and shooters will continue to find new areas to shoot. It's stupid and eventually the forest service will have to address it as the number of shooters in the front range are large enough to force the issue.
Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be.
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