Has anyone done this...

[cowboykjohnson]

I did a lecture only class because it was cheap, and putting 10 shots on paper at 5 feet isn't training.

[gravedigger]

Well, I've decided I'm ordering two of these, one for me and one for the wife. I've been shooting my whole life, taken the AZ permit course (which includes "training" 7 shots out of 10 in the "kill zone") and have shot a few competitions here and there. I know I don't need anymore classroom training and I don't need the "firearms training" you get at most CCW classes. My main goal in getting my CO CCW in cost effective manner. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Nice, let me know how long it takes to receive the packet/test now that you have ordered it and also let me know the turn around time on your certificate after you send the test back. Thanks and best of luck to you! I am thinking of doing the same, however I want my GF to take an actual classroom course with range time and live fire training as well.

[OgenRwot]

Yeah I hear you on that one. My wife has taken the AZ ccw class which is pretty good in my opinion. She learned a lot from it. Plus she hangs around me from time to time so she picks a lot up there too haha.

[OgenRwot]

I mailed the paper work and check off on Saturday the 3rd. Keep in mind no mail delivery on Monday because of the holiday. I just received the packets in the mail yesterday the 8th. The day he got my check he sent out the packets, that's pretty good if you ask me. Once I get the test finished and sent in I'll update you guys.

[gravedigger]

Nice, thanks for the update? How big is the packet? Is there a lot of good info inside or is it all basic stuff? Think I might order mine soon.

[OgenRwot]

It's all pretty basic stuff that you would learn in a regular CCW class. Came with a few articles on carrying and what not, pretty good stuff. The packet for the class was about 10 pages or so and has all the info in there for the test. Came with some pamphlets for firearm safety and the likes. Over all pretty good if you're familiar with firearms and carrying. Not much on Colorado law so you need to do your own homework on that one. If you haven't taken an in person class before I would highly recommend doing so and skipping this "at home" class. If you're very familiar with firearms, ccw law and have taken some sort of class before I would encourage you to take this class. As I said in an above post, I have my AZ ccw and so does my wife. We were looking for something to save money since most classes are around $100 bucks or so. This one was $50 and also didn't take up a whole Saturday so we opted for it. Again, if you have not taken a class before please go sit through one, you will learn a lot of great info that you need to know.

[OgenRwot]

I dropped off the finished tests at the post office on the 10th and assume they went out on the following Monday the 12th. Today is Thursday the 15th and I received the class completion certificates along with a letter instructing me where to find correct information on applying for my permit. That's a total of nine business days from my ordering the packets online to having completion certificates in hand. That's outstanding if you ask me.

A HUGE +1 to George at Highlands Ranch Firearms.

[Gritty]

That sounds interesting. I might give it a shot.

[Zundfolge]

The purpose of CCW training is not to make you into an effective gunfighter, the purpose of the training is to make sure you know the safety rules and the laws surrounding armed self defense so that you are both safe and legal when carrying.

The purpose of MANDATING training for CCW was so the CCW law could get past the liberals, moderates and other statists in the legislature so the law would exist in the first place.

Frankly I think the best way to handle it would be like your drivers license. You don't have to go to an expensive driving school to get your license, you just have to pass a multiple choice written test (for which you are provided a workbook to help you prepare). Maybe for your first CCW you should have to shoot a qualifying (the equivalent of the in-car drivers' test) but once you have your permit all you should have to do is demonstrate your understanding of the 4 safety rules and the legal ins and outs of carrying (what weapons can be carried, where you can carry, when lethal force is justified, etc).


It seems to me the added expense of a training course smacks me of the root of all gun control laws; keeping "undesirables" (ie: poor and non white) from obtaining a license to carry.

[OneGuy67]

The purpose of CCW training is not to make you into an effective gunfighter, the purpose of the training is to make sure you know the safety rules and the laws surrounding armed self defense so that you are both safe and legal when carrying.

Frankly I think the best way to handle it would be like your drivers license. You don't have to go to an expensive driving school to get your license, you just have to pass a multiple choice written test (for which you are provided a workbook to help you prepare). Maybe for your first CCW you should have to shoot a qualifying (the equivalent of the in-car drivers' test) but once you have your permit all you should have to do is demonstrate your understanding of the 4 safety rules and the legal ins and outs of carrying (what weapons can be carried, where you can carry, when lethal force is justified, etc).

The laws have changed for the driver's license requirements here in Colorado. Not speaking directly for a state-to-state transfer, but new drivers:

To be issued a Minor Driver's License (ages 16 - 20) you must meet the following requirements:

• Must hold instruction permit for 12 months (if under 18)
• Must be at least 16 years old
• Present a completed and signed Drive Time Log (if under 18)
• License will expire 20 days after your 21st birthday
• A 6-hour Behind the Wheel (BTW) certificate is required, upon application for the license, for minors who obtain their instruction permit under the age of 16 years 6 months years. Exception: 12 hours of behind the wheel training may be administered by a parent, guardian or alternate permit supervisor if there is no approved school offering at least 20 hours of driver education per week located within 30 miles of the permit holders residence.
• Pass a drive test with either a third-party tester or at a Driver's License office. *Drive Tests at Driver's License offices are by appointment only*

Every applicant under 18 years of age must submit an 'Affidavit of Liability and Guardianship' DR2460 signed by a parent, stepparent, guardian or grandparent with Power of Attorney. The DR 2460 must be verified by either a Driver's License employee or a Notary Public. If the signer is a guardian, original court documents showing guardianship, custody or adoption must be presented. If the signer is a grandparent with Power of Attorney (POA), the original POA must be presented and a copy of the POA must be surrendered upon application for the permit. If neither parent is living, the legal guardian of the minor may sign the affidavit. In this case, court-ordered guardianship papers are required. The affidavit may be obtained at any Motor Vehicle Driver License Office, from the back of the Driver License manual or downloaded above.

It seems to me that it is easier to obtain a CCW in Colorado than it is to get a driver's license. That is a little disconcerting to me.