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    Machine Gunner esaabye's Avatar
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    Thumbs down Bill Springfield triggerwork.net

    Fellow CO-AR15 members, I wanted to share my experience with Bill Springfield of http://triggerwork.net/.

    Bill came highly recommended by other members for quality and reasonable priced trigger work on AR platforms. Because of these recommendations and the fact that he is local I went ahead and took 2 rifles to him. I wish I had not.

    So here is the story…

    He did his magic on the 2 rifles (Bushmaster with factory trigger and a TI with DPMS parts kit) and 1 hour and 75 bucks later I was on my way with 2 very crisp 4lb triggers. I was happy.

    Several weeks later I took both rifles out for some target work. The TI worked great, no problems but the Bushy started doubling and going FA.
    I contacted Bill and he adjusted the trigger on the Bushy, said it was corrected; great, good service after the sale, who can ask for more. (1st fix)

    I took it back out to a shoot and it again started doubling, back to Bill I go. He is quick to respond and since the other rifle is working well I just let him correct the problem. (2nd fix) I was not worried; he was standing by the work and said he had identified the problem. I even had him do a trigger on a new M&P AR22 at the same time.

    Next time out I am practicing single load for high power and release the bolt on a loaded chamber, bang it fires. I do it a few more times and about 1/3 of the times it fires when the bolt is release, even from a magazine feed with the finger well off the trigger. Good thing the muzzle was in a safe direction!

    3rd time back to Bill and again he is sure he has the problem identified and fixed. OK, I will try it again.

    I take the rifle home and function check, the notched hammer in now catching the firing pin on bold release, locking the bolt half open. I do some reading and learn that this is a safety feature to prevent a slam-fire if the hammer does not lock back when the trigger resets.
    Back to Bill who says that this is just a fault hammer (the original hammer) and replaces it with a rounded hammer. (4th fix)

    I took the rifle out to Pueblo Tactical match 2 weeks ago and fired 2 rounds before the hammer locked back and the trigger would not move. Dead in the water!

    I reached out to Bill again and again he said to call him. I called and emailed but he did not respond. After one call that went to his voice mail I did get a call back from his number but it hung up after only 1 ring.

    I have now requested that he provide me a refund for the work on that one the one rifle. It will not make me whole as I had to take time to make 4 trips for repairs, had problems at matches I paid to shoot and ruined a functional trigger. I think asking for my money back is reasonable and a good business man would jump at handing back the $40 and moving on. Bill has not responded for a week now.

    On a positive, I picked up a RR 2 stage NM trigger today, should have started with one.

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    WOW-I've heard nothing but good on his work until now !
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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    WOW-I've heard nothing but good on his work until now !
    Wish I had not had to post this, was willing to walk away for a refund, not even asking to be made whole because he tried to fix it but he shut down the communication.

    The other 2 triggers are great and if something changes and he steps up I will post so or remove the thread.

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    I know how you feel esaabye. Back in my import modifying days, I was recommended to go to Bud's Muffler on 10th and Santa Fe in Denver. I got the shittiest muffler job I've ever seen. Everyone else who's ever used Bud's before and since has had perfect work done and been 100% satisfied. I think I'm the only person to ever receive bad work from them.
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    As luck would have it, someone gave me one of his triggers and I just installed it last night. I have read nothing good from him over on AR15.com lately. And esaabye, thanks again for letting me shoot your rifle at the appleseed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettendorf View Post
    As luck would have it, someone gave me one of his triggers and I just installed it last night. I have read nothing good from him over on AR15.com lately. And esaabye, thanks again for letting me shoot your rifle at the appleseed!

    Was that in Gunnison? Are you coming out again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
    Was that in Gunnison? Are you coming out again?

    Yep, Gunnison. My wife and I were out there. I'm guessing maybe not on the next one. We are getting a puppy soon and I don't know if the wife would like to leave him or not. I'll ask her. I might just go by myself. This is the next one right?

    Gunnison - Lost canyon, CO - Sep 4-5

    Are you going?

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    Quick update, Bill called me today and offered a refund which I accepted.

    So we had good and bad, take away what you will.

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