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    I went down to freedom first firearms to take a CCW class. And I will tell you if they keep going the way they are they won’t be around long.
    First I got there 15min early, There was one other student and the instructor Dick, He had about 14 guns out on the counter. Before the class got started dick went to the rest room leaving me and the other guy alone. I found this disconcerting, any one could have ether cleaned them out or put live ammo in any of the guns.
    So here’s how the class went, a ½ hour of Dick’s introducing him self and gun safety. Then 1 & ½ hours of different guns that sounded more like a sales pitch at which time Dick is handing the guns around to students. And no he did not clear the guns first and one lady was muzzle flashing her kid, next we had what I can only call a bull scion that had little to do with CCW. After this I just left I had enough. The next day I called Dick to talk about the class. I told him I was looking for a CCW class and not a gun and bull class. And that I did not feel that that he was not focused on safety and the law. He said the that was in the packet he gave us and that the students stayed after to get there questions answered. Well no kidding he didn’t answer them in class. Dick offered to give me the name of a class that would be more of what I was looking for. So I asked him, what is the best CCW class around? And he said and I quote “Rich Wyatt at Gunsmoke has the most highly regarded CCW class in Denver” . With that said I went to see Rich and got into one of his classes. And I must say I think dick is right. Rich cover safety extensively and he had a lawyer come in to talk about the law. He was organized and to the point. He didn’t waist my time with useless BS. If freedom first is going up against an outfit like Gunsmoke I don’t think they will be here long.
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    The second I saw that this poster was located in Wheat Ridge, I knew that he was a shill for Gunsmoke. What a sham/e.
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    Well, at least his ramblings were mostly coherent.
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    Its funny, thats to the T how my Hunter safety went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    The second I saw that this poster was located in Wheat Ridge, I knew that he was a shill for Gunsmoke. What a sham/e.
    WOW, It must be nice being able to judge all those books by looking at there covers.
    Look I know that there are some of you out there that like to bash Gunsmoke. But it does not change the fact that what I said is the truth. If you don’t think so that’s your right but if you are going to bash a company do it from your own experience not from what some one ells said or herd,
    Which from what I have seen on here is what a lot of you are doing.

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    Enough people have posted their personal experiences here to make an informed opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_187 View Post
    Its funny, thats to the T how my Hunter safety went.
    Sorry to her that. Where did you go for your hunter safety?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Enough people have posted their personal experiences here to make an informed opinion.

    http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showth...light=gunsmoke
    So if 50% of the population said Obama is grate does that make him Right? And how bad can Gunsmoke be if there competition is recommending there Class????

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    Quote Originally Posted by sv44magnum View Post
    So if 50% of the population said Obama is grate does that make him Right? And how bad can Gunsmoke be if there competition is recommending there Class????
    No it takes 51%. But I think 50% would like him to be grate d.

    Sorry. Carry on.

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    As far as the GS issue I think that horse has been rode hard, put away wet and needs to go the glue factory.
    I have two friends that went to RW's CCW classes and said it was a total waste of money.
    There are much better classes out there for the money, especially considering the critical nature of the class subject.

    I have dropped into Freedom First a couple of times and although the only interaction with any of the staff was "Hi" that is the extent of customer service so no real opinion.
    They didnt have much for a selection and it seemed to me the used prices were too high, especially considering the condition of a couple items i.e. a well used Bushy A2 20" for $899?
    I will agree if there are poor handling practices of firearms that is not a positive note.
    If they are going to be succesful we will know in a year or so.......
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