WHY GLOCKS?!? WHY 9mm?!?

[USMC03]

http://www.coloradoshooting.org/why_glock.htm

[Great-Kazoo]

glock or some other mfg of 9mm .this echo's what i have been saying for years.

it's shot placement vs. size of hole.

a man who practices with a .22 is far better then one who doesn't with a .45!!.

thank you.................

[BadShot]

He nailed it at the end... shoot what you shoot best, carry what you shoot best and get the gun that fits YOU. 9mm is a good round. Low penitration when considering barrier objects such as car doors, walls, etc... good and bad depending on your outlook.

Will the 9mm kill, wound or flat out drop your target... uh yeah. Will 45 be more effective when placed side by side with the 9mm... yeah. But then again a 82mm mortor will kill a bunch of stuff in its impact area, much like it's big brother then 155mm arty shell.

We've all heard or read the stories of LEO or Mil guys having to dump 16+ rounds into a target to drop it when using 9mm... I personally don't recall those same type stories or rumor with the 45. Guess that is part of the hype, but the fact of the matter is that the 45 will stop someone more often than not even without a X ring shot. 9mm is more likely to require a few more rounds when outside the primary kill zones.

There is a whole lot to be said for 9's in general. Most of us who are both 9 and 45 fans are also huge fans of the 40 cal round, which I think has been neglected as a general use round.

Then again I subscribe to the theory that if your can't stop it in 16 rounds, you shouldn't be messing with it... don't see many 16 round .45's now do ya?

[Colorado Osprey]

G20...still a glock
10mm baby...rocks like a 41 magnum, 15 rounds like a 9mm.
Why aren't these more popular?
You need big paws to grip the larger frame and you can't be recoil sensitive. Having carried a .357mag as a duty rig for years, I am not recoil shy in the .357mag or 10mm. Anybody who says that they are not .44mag. shy is lying; .44mag, yes recoil shy.
Second reason...expensive ammo to practice.

I have been shot by a 9mm, I won't carry one for protection. I recommend them to everyone who I don't like.

They don't work. I was not even shot in the kevlar. If I was shot by a 10mm, I wouldn't be here.

Now I am not talking about specialty rounds like the one's Colorado Springs PD uses...those will bust most 9mm slides....heck they even broke the PD's pistols until S&W fixed them with heavy springs. They are much closer to auto .357mag's in velocity and energy.

I'm digressing. Being able to shoot is much more important than bullet size. I remember an article I read in a combat defense course once, carry the largest caliber in the heaviest bullet you can handle accurately. For some it is a .22lr, for others it is a .44mag.

Don't just shoot at targets either, create stress shoots. Run a mile as fast as you can and try to shoot. This will duplicate your heart rate that has just been topped from adrenaline. These will best show you how you will shoot when you really need to.

[rtr]

What round does CSPD use?

[USMC03]

What round does CSPD use?

I know without a doubt that they carry a 9mm......Last I knew their duty round was the Federal Hydra Shok


We also issue the Hydra Shok in 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 acp, 10mm, and .357 mag

[michael_aos]

My first CCW purchase was a Springfield Armory Micro-Compact in .45 ACP.

Not so fun to shoot, and ammo is expensive.

I steer all my friends to 9mm for their first handgun purchase.

I've been carrying a Glock 34 (9mm) hiking / camping for the last couple of years. It's just now been supplanted by a revolver in .41 Magnum.

I had high-hopes to replaced the Springfield with a Kimber Tactical Pro II in 9mm, but it's heavier than I expected. I'll probably replace it eventually with a Colt Lightweight Super Commander.

Mike

[Colorado Osprey]

What round does CSPD use?

CSPD uses a round made for them by Winchester.
Brass cased, Black Talon, very high pressure like a +P+. Almost like sub gun ammo. The original Black Talon used nickel brass like Federal Hydra-Shoks. These rounds are waaay hotter than Hydra-Shok's. They actually kick.

When they first started using S&W's they were the 1st out of the 4th generation and they were cracking slides and frames. S&W told them to get bent and they wouldn't fix them. CSPD threatened lawsuit and publiction of the event and S&W fixed the weapons for these hot rounds and all subsiquent weapons bought for the department. This was in the earily/mid '90's when S&W was having quality problems.

[bbadmin]

On a similar note....

Denver PD authorizes Glocks. But they don't authorize the .40. Its .45, or 9mm, but no .40.

Oh and they de-authorized Kimbers........



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[The1andOnlyKC]

I have yet to figure out what the craze with Kimber is. Same junk SA has. SA has the same Junk Kimber has.... :roll: