Colorado CCW Training Warning

[Ernie Mazza]

I am gfoing through the same crappola here in Ks. I was told that before i can even apply for a CCW I need to get the training. The Ks law has provisions for retired LEO but I have been out for eight years so I am right at the limit. Trying to find an instructor who has the credentials is a pain since the law just passed and no one knows what is required yet.
Fed Law passed in 02 that said i can carry any place in the US but I did not feel i should since every one else was forbidden here I would not just because i was a retired LEO. Same thing now i will go to the class when ever they figure out who, what, and where. I should be sort of fun, sort of like when i was teaching basic life support and had to recert a bunch of ER Doctors and Nurses. But I will be on the other end now.

[MuzzleFlash]

...Fed Law passed in 02 that said i can carry any place in the US but I did not feel i should since every one else was forbidden here I would not just because i was a retired LEO....

I would do it if your former department will support it on the paperwork end. If nothing else, having the federal permit could keep you out of trouble if travelling through any number of communist states such as Kali, Illinois, NJ, etc.

[LeftHandBlack]

My instructor put his NRA instructor # next to his signature on my certificate. I renewed at Arapahoe a few months ago and they had signs posted "certificates from online classes not recognized as proof of training". If anyone is considering going that route(scary thought) dont waste your money.

[Alpha2]

I see nobody has replied for a while, so let me add that there is still no state "registry" or questioning by the state. Yes, you should make sure your instructor is actually a certified instructor. That means certified by a national organization, (think NRA, or probably now USCCA, since they now do certifications). Sheriff Justin Smith hasn't questioned any of my credentials or students to date.
That being said, I haven't had a single student ask for my credentials, although my NRA instructor number is on my certificates, and they can always check with the NRA for the info.

[SigsRule]

FYI, I was a FAA cerfied flight instructor for about 28 years. Any student going to the FAA for a check ride will definitely have their logbook scrutinized by the FAA to look for the credentials of the instructor. It never happened to me but I've heard of the FAA doing 'ramp checks' and checking the credentials of instructors.

[<MADDOG>]

For the few who don't know it, El Paso (maybe CO?) accepts the Hunter's Safety Course for the training requirement. I found that out when I took the class last year, and it may be a boring couple days (half the class was kids), but it's cheaper than alot of the CCW classes I see around.

I exceeded the CCW window for the vet requirement, and I was pleased to know I killed two birds with one stone.

[spqrzilla]

For the few who don't know it, El Paso (maybe CO?) accepts the Hunter's Safety Course for the training requirement. I found that out when I took the class last year, and it may be a boring couple days (half the class was kids), but it's cheaper than alot of the CCW classes I see around.

That's odd because I am pretty sure that it does not meet the statutory requirements, and the DOW does not want the hunter safety course to qualify. Did the instructor claim this?

I teach hunter ed as a volunteer for the DOW and this has been made clear several times by DOW.

[Great-Kazoo]

a hunter safety card is accepted providing it was issued within 2-3 yrars i believe.
when the law was based on discrection of the local sheriff. larimer cty accepted a HS card providing it was within X years while weld cty did not accept it.

[spqrzilla]

Sure enough El Paso sheriff's webpage does say that they will accept a hunter safety card. DOW did not want the hunter education course to qualify and specifically lobbied against its inclusion in the statute.

That will be a topic of discussion at the next DOW HE instructor's meeting I suppose.

[Great-Kazoo]

Sure enough El Paso sheriff's webpage does say that they will accept a hunter safety card. DOW did not want the hunter education course to qualify and specifically lobbied against its inclusion in the statute.

That will be a topic of discussion at the next DOW HE instructor's meeting I suppose.

it's been in there since statewide CCW took effect