Quote Originally Posted by Zak Smith
A good JHP out of 9x19 or larger is good to go.

Worry less about load/caliber bulletshit and more about mindset, tactics, and skill.
I agree with you.

I bought a lightweight .41 Magnum for hiking. The conventional "Internet wisdom" was that the .41 was the right minimum defensive cartridge for bear & lion.

I've also read of issues with crimp-jump on heavy .44 mag loads in lightweight revolvers.

So I figure if you've got to download .44 anyway, might as well go with a .41.

Now the question becomes, what's the "minimum" .41 load for outdoors?

And as long as I've got it, why not use it as a "car gun" when I'm not hiking?

So the next question, it's what's a minimum self-defense load in .41? I suspect even the lightest factory loads are more than I need.

Mike