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    Quote Originally Posted by netsecsys View Post
    +1 on Bracken. In this order:

    Enemies Foreign and Domestic
    Domestic Enemies
    Foreign Enemies and Traitors

    Scary seeing some of the thoughts of the writer starting to come to real-life in regards to illegal changes to immigration policies by the left
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    Have a kindle?
    I do. Read 1sec after already. However not opposed to having in the library.
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    "when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Nah, don't do that. Be a part of the solution with a like minded group of people.
    I guess my point is that I'm going to spend my energy and efforts in trying to PREVENT TEOTWAWKI, but once it happens I could care less about survival. I was born in latter 20th century United States of America ... a place with high speed internet, HD television, hot & cold running water and free market capitalism ... I'm not going to live in a backward third world shit hole.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I guess my point is that I'm going to spend my energy and efforts in trying to PREVENT TEOTWAWKI, but once it happens I could care less about survival. I was born in latter 20th century United States of America ... a place with high speed internet, HD television, hot & cold running water and free market capitalism ... I'm not going to live in a backward third world shit hole.
    I can't entirely disagree with that... but if it does happen, I'll still do my best to "live" as comfortably and safely as I can.

    I'm afraid to think that a lot of people will have the same recognition when they realize there's no "end in sight", and things won't be back to the way they used to be... A lot of them will lose their sense of community and morality and will take it out on strangers violently. Others might just collapse internally and take it out on themselves via suicide, murder-suicide, etc.. Regardless of possibilities and "what ifs", TEOTWAWKI will be a devastating turn of events we can only pray doesn't happen in our lifetimes, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be prepared for a few months of self sufficiency if necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I guess my point is that I'm going to spend my energy and efforts in trying to PREVENT TEOTWAWKI, but once it happens I could care less about survival. I was born in latter 20th century United States of America ... a place with high speed internet, HD television, hot & cold running water and free market capitalism ... I'm not going to live in a backward third world shit hole.
    Cool with me (no offense, more for the rest of us) but it just struck me strange that someone posting in a Survival/Prep forum would think this way.

    I don't know because I've never been there, but I think you'd have a much different perspective if you haven't had a meal or any water for several days. Even more so if you have dependents counting on you. I think you would then suddenly care very much about survival. Maybe you would just go on a suicide mission and get yourself killed in a murderous rampage, I don't know. My guess is that the vast majority of mentally healthy people wouldn't do this.

    Basically, you stated that you've been spoiled your whole life and wouldn't want to live in a shithole (aka not spoiled with internet, HD TV, running water, etc.). No offense (again) but many of us here are spoiled and don't even realize it.

    Most humans on this earth live in that shithole right now....so you'd just off yourself if it got that bad? I doubt it, but what do I know.

    People change quickly when their basic needs are denied. Let's hope we never have have to see if we can handle it.

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    Let me be clear here, I'm not talking about Obama being re-elected or a freak snow storm that knocks out power and locks the city down for a week or a big stock market crash that erases my IRA and 401k, I'm talking about a cataclysmic event that shuts the lights off and they ain't never coming back on ... where the only option is to "run to the hills" and live like its the early 1800s for the rest of our lives. No sir, I'm not doing that. And if I believe that cataclysm was brought about on purpose, I intend to do whatever I can to punish those that did it on the way out.

    I read the survival/prep stories to learn how to be prepared for that freak snow storm where I'll be without power for a week or two, or if my car breaks down in the middle of nowhere and I need to camp out for a couple days ... or for tips on how to live super frugally if I lost my job and couldn't find one for over a year. But I ain't here to learn how to re-seed the planet and re-boot civilization, I'll leave that the young'ns

    I guess my response is because a lot of folk here spend a lot of time thinking about the "whats" of survival without thinking about the "whys".
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    OSA definitely changed me. I read it in about 14 hours while on alert. Like many others, I couldn't put it down. Going to read LO and Patriots next and insisting the wife does the same. Beginning to gather supplies. I'll be staying in while waiting for the initial craziness to subside, then heading to a place with good water supply.
    "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."

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    Check out "Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse". Another great read!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 82ndShooter View Post
    Check out "Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse". Another great read!!!!

    Already have it ordered. Thanks. I read this whole 14 page thread.
    "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."

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    I think I'll start re-reading OSA tonight. I need to rekindle my desire to prep.

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