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    Default Your bug out plan - From City.

    I was recently talking to a few of my buddies about what they would do in a shtf situation... Not zombie... Rather huge natural disaster type

    Every one of them said "Grab my bag and head to the mountains"

    But the thing is... it's easy to block the mountain roads... or stop up the Eisenhower tunnel... And of course that will happen...

    And the biggest problem - the people who already live in the mountains are much better armed and stocked than anything you can carry... and they know the terrain.

    ...So how does your bug-out plan get around this large problem.

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    My thought is the last thing I'm doing is leaving my supplies and shelter UNLESS it's my last resort. If anyone thinks the folks in the mountains are going to welcome you with open arms they're crazy. Survival sucks it's not an internet game. JMHO
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    I have yet to come up with a scenario that would force me out of the house.
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    If it is bad enough that I have to leave my house I have relatives in the mountains and I have a couple of vehicles that will get me there on less traveled roads.

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    I have yet to come up with a scenario that would force me out of the house.
    Don't worry. SHTF will think of one for you!

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    I always laugh at people who say that.

    1) They have no land.
    2) You can't grow anything in the mountains.

    What is the rule of thumb? For every 1,000' in altitude gain, you lose a full month of growing season? Something like that.

    Go hang out above timber line and eat rocks pal.
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    Sure as hell ain't staying put. I don't live in a super-overpopulated area, but there's quite a few people here and I want nothing to do with it already, let alone if the shtf.

    I'd probably sit tight for a week or so after the incident happens to avoid the initial rush of people and discuss plans with a couple close friends. Then, load up with the guns, ammo, food, fuel, and other supplies, and head out into the plains or the mountains depending on the situation.
    Plains are the primary location due to long sightlines and such, and the fact that they're closer/easier to get to. If people themselves are the main threat (gov't turns on us, enemy invades, anarchy takes over and people turn on each other, etc.) then I don't want to be somewhere that's as easy to find, so mountains it is.
    I have a few spots in the mountains... 7 actually, between the bottom of CO and the bottom of WY. All very isolated and difficult to find areas that can only be accessed by a rock-filled trail in a lifted Jeep or truck and then some fairly difficult hiking/climbing on top of that. All spots are close to water, have rough terrain, and could be set up pretty defensively taking advantage of the land features.
    As far as getting to these spots, I have all of the back roads and trails mapped out that lead to them, and I'd avoid main roads/highways/populated areas.

    Also, about the lack of food sources in the mountains... I lived in a cabin up by Mt. Evans for 2 years... I know how to survive on my own in the Rockies.

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    Can you support a whole family?
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    I have to agree with some other posts, I'm staying put for as long as possible. I still believe a significant amount of people will head NSEW out of town and clog things up. Nobody is getting anywhere fast. Google some photos of the katrina stuff, gridlock.

    Best option is to move out of town if you have any fair warning and are sure things are going to be worse, again: katrina.

    There are some good articles on the Katrina thing, one guy documented all of the happenings, they were prepared, others showed up uninvited and things were just a mess.

    I'd have to say I'd head east, if I thought I could get across town in the first place. Mountains pose so many obstacles of limited roads, mountain passes, fuel stops. Even going east from Denver isn't much better, only a few places to stop and get food and fuel.

    It all depends on how much time I have to prepare, to choose which vehicle and if I can take the camper with me.

    If I have to leave in 30 mins or less, I'm grabbing the 4 BOB's for the family and picking the wife's jeep for speed, fuel economy and off road ability.

    If I have an hour, I'm grabbing the big truck and camper and anything I can fit in it.

    so many What If's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecatsfan View Post
    Don't worry. SHTF will think of one for you!

    Just one of those things I can't really find the enthusiasm to get all worked up about.
    Looking at the most likely ones.

    Blizzard- Haven't seen one yet that within 72 hours everything was back to normal, or, near normal.
    And I made it through the blizzard of '82.

    Tornado- I'll go down in the crawlspace until it's over and proceed from there.

    Flood- I'll put it this way, If I have to start worrying about the rising water, We should have had the Ark already.

    Let's see, that leaves us with the "Red dawn scenario", Nuclear attack and Mob rules. The least likely ones.

    Red Dawn- Pretty sure I'm going to be out numbered and out gunned on that one anyway, Might as well go down defending the
    the house as opposed to some cave somewhere.

    Mob rules- A few well placed shots "should" persuade them to look elsewhere. Or at least look for new leaders.

    Nuclear attack- I love this one, I'm about 15 miles as the shockwave travels from the Fed center. which I'm guessing would still rate fairly high on the list of local targets.
    So, if we are still talking 7 minutes from launch detection to impact, I might have enough time to tell my tushie good bye.

    So, to sum up, I really just can't get that excited about it. Sorry..
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