Hope they can keep it open.
From Foothills, to K2, to Green Mountain, that facility hasn't had a lot of luck
Hope they can keep it open.
From Foothills, to K2, to Green Mountain, that facility hasn't had a lot of luck
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Bowers Tactical
6931 S. Yosemite St. Suite 400
Centennial, CO 80112
720-985-2041
www.bowerstactical.com
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Does long gun = ar15? If so, I can't wait for them to open.
Facility when it was re built as K2 got (5) rifle points, seated only, 100yds with electronic target carriers. back stop was rated .50BMG, but they put a kybosh on the heavy iron when it changed hands to green mountain. don't know what the new guys are doing with it.
Its all subterranean, and though well ventilated, its LOUD. bring good ear pro for the rifle range.
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Bowers Tactical
6931 S. Yosemite St. Suite 400
Centennial, CO 80112
720-985-2041
www.bowerstactical.com
FireMoth's Razor:
"Often the simplest solution is to Slit a few throats"
GMFSC allowed ar15's if you were a "member". Members paid 120 a year, and only got 2 dollars off each range trip. The last owner decided to do that because some punk brought his ar15 there and rapid fired some rounds down range and ended up destroying some tracks.
but as firemoth said, their backstops were rated to .50bmg and said anything to that size was more than welcome. and yes, bring double hearing protection because you will need it. I wore ear plugs and electronic shooting ear muffs and still walked out with ringing ears.
all in all it is a really nice and clean facility, good lighting, up to date tracks with digital range read outs.
The previous failures had to do, in my opinion, with mismanaged and non existent retail operations.
Like movie theaters make money on concessions, ranges sell ammo, guns, supplies. K2 did ok, they just didn't know what their customer base wanted really, and didn't give them selves over run room on the facility.
GMFSC didn't have anything. range fees alone just cant support a business.
If they figure out what people want to buy, and have a good little guns hop upstairs, they can make it work. but it wont without.
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Bowers Tactical
6931 S. Yosemite St. Suite 400
Centennial, CO 80112
720-985-2041
www.bowerstactical.com
FireMoth's Razor:
"Often the simplest solution is to Slit a few throats"
I've taken my AR in there and they've never questioned me on being a "member" and that was right before they closed!Originally Posted by lebru
I hope this new management will do a good job. It's the only indoor range my wife likes!!!
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I'm hopeful that this gets up and running and is a good place; i'm moving right down the street from there in a few weeks.
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Looks like the "range rules" page has been updated:
•You are required to purchase our ammo to shoot at our pistol range, in the following calibers: .9mm, 223, .357, .38, .380, .40, .44, .45, and 7.62x39
•You may function test and train with your self supplied, personal defense pistol ammunition, up to 1 box of 50 rounds.
•You may provide and shoot your personal ammunition on our rifle range, to include specific hunting loads and sight-in for AR style rifles.
• **All training and multiple magazine firing of all AR/Tactical style rifles will be conducted on our pistol range, and the shooter will be required to purchase and shoot our ammo.
So, I interpret this quite simply: You have to buy their ammo, even for .223, and apparently AR shooting will take place on the pistol range.
And here is their updated range rules:
•Firearms must be unloaded and cased unless on the firing line.(Exceptions for Law Enforcement)
•The range officer is in charge of the range at all times.
• Ear and eye protection must be worn at all times.
•No one is allowed in front of the firing line.
•Always point firearms downrange.
• Place targets at eye level.
•Do not shoot the floor or ceiling of the range.
•All rounds must impact the bullet trap / backstop.
•No rapid fire. (you must control the firearm)
•Drawing from the holster is prohibited, unless you have prior approval.
•Shooters under 18 must be accompanied by an adult.
•Food and drink are prohibited in the range.
•Smoking/smokeless tobacco is prohibited in the store and the range.
•Shell casings must be swept past the firing line.
•You may pick up your own brass.•No private instruction of any kind is allowed on the premises.
I bolded the last two rules, as everything else is standard. This shows that you CAN collect your own brass. However, the "no private instruction" thing is somewhat disconcerting. So, if I bring a date to the range, am I not allowed to show her how to shoot? Am I going to have to pay some tactical ninja to give my girlfriend lessons? (This is rhetorical of course, because I wouldn't put up with that BS for a second).
Also, here is a gem of a quote I found on the main page:
"No other range in Denver brings this much real world and combat experience together in one facility. BluCore personnel have deployed to combat zones all over the world conducting operations against the most dangerous terrorists in the most extreme conditions."
That right there, coupled with the absurd ammo policy, tells me everything I need to know about this place. It sounds like a bunch of holier-than-thou Tactical Teds who have way too much ego to run an effective business. I'm sure they will sell plenty of Extreme Shock ammo there.
If I remember correctly, Green Mountain didn't allow rifles on the pistol lanes, so that would be a plus for the new crew.
As far as the no private training rule, I would guess that it's a similar rule that most gyms have and aimed at any kind of formal, "professional" instruction and not so much the "here baby keep your finger off the trigger and eye focused on the front post" informal date training and they probably worded the way they did to give themselves some flexibility with enforcing it.
I'm going to have a couple of rifles to sight-in soon and will most likely do it at BlueCore, so I'll reserve further judgment till I've checked it out in person.