Quote Originally Posted by Meateater
Who will these people "bitch" to? I just don't understand your unfounded fear of what people in McDonalds THINK of our shirts. Fear of being PC is what has allowed our gun rights to disolve over the last 20 years, but that is a topic for another thread. I never promoted any of the silly slogans you listed, or anything similar. Not a thing I suggested is offensive in way shape or form. I just think your gray shirt design is lame. I see no logical reason why we can't print up the tan design as well and each member can pick their flavor.
You mean besides the management, who if they deciede that we are a problem can have us banned from the property?

Besides the local media, which could give us a undeserved reputation?

Plenty of people, that in the end could make un-needed problems for us.


Look, shooters have been slandered for many years now, we already have a bad reputation for leaving junk laying around in the shooting areas, due to the actions of more than just a couple of people.

Why drop to the level of the anti-gunners and push them around by shoving our beliefs down everyones throat?

If we are reasionable, when they are not, we can show them to be for what they realy are, a bunch of people that want to take away the rights of law abiding citizens.

We will do more to preserve and restore our 2nd Amendment rights, by appearing to be ordenary people ( even if we are not ) that has a common hobby, than to appear as a bunch militants that doesn't have any respect for others.

If we look militant, people are going to think Waco TX and Ruby Ridge and probably will not want to know more about us. OTOH, if we look more like common folk with a simmiler hobby that they might be interested in joining.

We have a few people that shoot BP, and most are collecters of military type firearms, some of which are of historical nature. So why not also make this a point as well.

What proactive PR has this group done to make John Q Public less afraid of firearms?

Sure we do clean ups, but, for the most part, that is out of the public eye.

At one time, we pushed things like safe and responsable shooting as pat of the logo, is it no longer cool to let John Q Public know that?

Is it not cool to let John Q Public know that they have nothing to fear from us and our hobby?

That's the problem we have right now. John Q Public has been brainwashed by the media, to fear the "Black Rifle", and now we have to reverse that belief, because if we don't then all the cool macho T-shirts in the world will not retain our 2nd Amentment rights.


I would rather be a little un-Macho, a little un-Cool, than loose my rights to AR15's or any other firarms.