carry in Banks

[HunterCO]

I'm not talking about no shirt no service.

A private property owner is not making the no concealed carry law. That is a Colorado law. It provides that a CCW holder is prohibited from carrying if a private property owner so indicates.

You are wrong there is NO SUCH LAW! There is not a single part of the CCW law that states it is a crime.

The only thing it says is that the LAW DOES NOT TAKE AWAY A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHTS TO RESTRICT WEAPONS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

Notice the key word RIGHTS once again that is the wishes of the private property owner and is NOT A LAW!

Just like there is NO LAW that makes it a crime to not wear a shirt even if they post it. Are you getting it yet if not I would suggest you contact a lawyer and have them explain it to you since I cant seem to get through to you.

There is once again NO LAW THAT MAKES IT A CRIME.

[HunterCO]

If they post a no carry and you do, and you get nailed by them, they call the local LEO, you get ticketed for something stupid, it is a justification for the state to pull your license - because you ignored their sign. That is in the law therefore it is the law...... IMHO....

By all means please you or your CCW instuctor please show me the CO statue supporting that.

Better yet I want to see the CO statue that claims you can be cited for "something stupid" I would also like to know what the penalties are for something stupid. [roll]

Mule not a flame but that made me laugh. :P

[Artyboy]

I think he means that if they want to be anal and find a reason to ticket you they can. It doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with you having a gun on their property. They'd have a hard time finding something to ticket you for that could get your license revoked, though.

[HunterCO]

I think he means that if they want to be anal and find a reason to ticket you they can. It doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with you having a gun on their property. They'd have a hard time finding something to ticket you for that could get your license revoked, though.

Nonsense you have to break a law to be cited no if and or buts. If you broke no law they can not cite you and make it stick, it has nothing to do with them being anal.

Once again somebody post the CO statue that states it is a crime to carry on private property that is posted no weapons.

[Mule]

What I'm talking about is something like a "disturbing the peace" type stupid. Like when some guy walks around in Boulder open carrying and the cops nail him for it.

I' more concerned with loosing my permit. The law is what governs our legal carry, if we brake the law, we may loose the permit. Breaking the law is carrying into a signed place, it is enforcable, they take our permit. Plane and simple.

I'm not talking about a landowner/tennant/business trying to have me tossed in jail - for carrying in THEIR domain - because THEY think it's illegal for me to - based on THEIR little sign. They didn't make a law up, they may have made an assumption of the law OR they actually understand it and want us to stick to what WE are governed by.....

Take a sip of wine, calm down and think about what I am saying. You may try to look at the law as OUR standards for carry..... [poke]

We are on the same side, keep that in mind.
Greg

[Mule]

PS,
same thing in the "almost" peoples republic of Denver......
They can't ticket us for carrying, but they can for disturbing the peace or maybe something else....
G

OOPS, forgot.
definitions of stupit and breaking the law.
I let some idiot w/ a vendeta aginst guns see my weapon - stupid
he/she freaks out, call the cops and accuse me of waiving it around.
me aginst the yahoo, they believe him/her because I really do have a weapon. How else would they have known..... (same thing as letting someone know you carry and what you warry)
I get a ticked for disturbing the peace - I broke the law.

good enough explaination?

[HunterCO]

Breaking the law is carrying into a signed place, it is enforcable, they take our permit. Plane and simple.

Greg

Once again all I'm asking is for you or anybody to post the CO statue supporting that statement?

I will give you a hint there isn’t one. That statement is false plain and simple. In order for it to be against the law there must be a statue stateing as such.

[marty]

Well here's what I am going by. The text that follows is from the CBI WEB site. See Statute (5). Since a statute is a law, by definition in any dictionary including the on-line one I just checked, I read (5) to say that it is against the law to carry CCW if a private propery owner probits it.

18-12-214

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Source: Colorado Statutes/TITLE 18 CRIMINAL CODE/ARTICLE 12 OFFENSES RELATING TO FIREARMS AND WEAPONS/PART 2 PERMITS TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUNS/18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.

18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.
(1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except as specifically limited in this section. A permit does not authorize the permittee to use a handgun in a manner that would violate a provision of state law. A local government does not have authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance or resolution that would conflict with any provision of this part 2.

(b) A peace officer may temporarily disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. The peace officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the permittee from the scene.

(2) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

(3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:

(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked.

(b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty.

(c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.

(4) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which:

(a) Security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building;

(b) Security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and

(c) Security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.

(5) Nothing in this part 2 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity.

(6) The provisions of this section apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209.

Source: L. 2003: Entire part added, p. 647, § 1, effective May 17.

[Mule]

THANK YOU MARTY!!!!!!!!

[newracer]

I still agree with HunterCO [poke]
To me 5 states that private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity have rights that cannot be limited by this statute. Therefor they have the right to not allow a person to carry on their property. Doesn't state that if someone does it is illegal.

I also read it as the total opposite. If I want to allow individuals to carry conceled on my private property WITHOUT a permit I can. [poke]