Sig classic or sig pro or just some other gun?

[BadShot]

Dude, get over the Rambo mentality and..

+1 to what The1andOnlyKC and 7idl have said..

I could go on and on and on about the error of your ways in this thread, but have decided to remain constructive. You need to get more training and practice before you should consider CCW. Your current mind set (as demonstrated in this thread and others) is dangerous.

Don't rely exclusively on what you read in a gun rag or on the net. Go learn and be safe. I'd hate to see your face and the name(s) of your victims plastered all over the papers because you acted in real life like you're proposing here.

[Gman]

Is an errant shot that takes an innocent life something you want to live with? When you can hit COM at 7 yards without using the sights but by point shooting, you should be OK. Every shot you take you need to identify the target and what's behind it.

I carry a S&W 1911SC with night sights and a spare mag. 17 rounds of .45 is plenty for any scenario I can think of. The 1911 platform is slim, conceals well, and carries comfortably.
...but the single action is not for everyone. I carry it because I can put every shot on target with a cold gun.

[Delphi]

Delphi-

my 'challenge' to you:

don't buy any more firearms right now.

take what you have and find an IDPA, USPA or 3gun event near you and spend ..oh.. 6 months MINIMUM (At least 1x per month) learning the ropes (people there will be glad to show you (if you're willing to learn))

observe
listen
practice


I guarantee your outlook will change after all that.

Well all i have right now is an Ak and an AR and a couple bolt action guns, no pistols.... I think i probobly ought to get one... that was the whole reason for this post deciding what gun to get so i can get good practice with it before applying for concealed carry....

IDPA i will look into that... once i actually own a pistol of some sort. I do want to learn how to shoot accuratly with a pistol... just honestly have never been a big fan of .45 shot one quite a bit and didnt like it... biggest handgun caliber i like is .357mag and thats cause the revolver i used it with was huge... dunno why my freind has that clunkly thing anyways but it's fun

The ones that i have shot that i'm really comfortable with are 9mm and 40S&W.... so the question still stands which one do you think i should get? 40 S&W or 9mm i like the recoil on those vs the highger calibers....

Right now i'm thinking about a Compensated Glock...

[The1andOnlyKC]

The caliber choice is totally up to you. Do some research on the balistics of the ammo you want to use in the firearm you are looking at purchasing and go from there.

[robsterclaw]

I've been in 2, one-sided firefights in my life and you don't have time to do sh*t! In the first case I didn't even have time to run. In the second 1 I had time to stop and duck, but if he had better aim.....who knows. My uncle was a county sheriff for 40 years. The 2 things he always talked about was being the first cop at Buddy Hollies airplane wreck and the ONE time he was in a firefight. Lasted all of 3 seconds. Yes he killed the guy. First shot. He wouldn't have had time to unload a 17 round clip. He had time to draw his .357 and fire once. The bad guy fired twice if I remember correctly. Interesting side-note. Due to Iowa laws at the time, he had to cuff the dead guy, and place him in the back seat. :twisted:

My points being, he was a county sheriff, in the days when he was the law enforcement leader, and not a political hack. Responsible for taking upon himself the responsibility to apprehend the worst criminals in his county, and not put it on some rookie. And he only had 1 firefight in his whole life.

Second point is there isn't time to do much when someone shoots at you. You're better off ducking and trying to get your gun while trying to hide. My oh so important job that got me shot at twice? A damn janitor for Albertson's while in high school. They robbed us 1 night and shot me in the arm before we realized what was going on. I was shot with the 3rd shot they fired. The second time was chasing a shoplifter that was wanted for felony warrents. It was the 80's and I had long hair, and wore normal clothes so if they suspected someone of shoplifting, they sent me to follow them. Chasing this guy acrossed Academy he stopped aimed and fired four times. We were just able to duck by the time he fired his second shot.

You'd think because of that I'd already be carrying concealed, but the chances I'm going to get shot at again, is so slim, I haven't made it a priority. I took the class and even filled out the paperwork years ago, but just never bothered to follow through. Some day I will, mostly on principle, because it's my right to carry, but too many people want to carry because they think they're a badass because they carry a gun. I don't want to be one of those guys.

[Delphi]

well me i want to learn to carry cause i'm working my way through college, and i want to get practice with my gun before i turn 21.... Working through college i have crappy jobs, and currently am stuck as a cashier... i immagine 2 years from now that will still be the case untill i'm out of college(i'm going for a masters degree and have 5 years left, and two years before i can get a concealed carry permit)

Basically, bieng that i'm going to have 3 years where i can legally carry a gun to protect myself while working late night shifts as a cashier is kinda important to me... Sadly i'll have to go for two years without any protection what so ever.

So yes i think it is a possiblaty that i might get into a firefight considering that a 7/11 employee was shot and killed not too long ago. And thats why i want a good pistol and as much practice as i can get with it. I'm not one of those people that wants to be a "badass".

In general though i am very angry with my goverment telling me that at the age of 19 i can be forced to go die for my country(the draft which could be put into affect any time), but not be allowed to defend my self at that age.

[robsterclaw]

Ok I have 1 character question. Since almost every corporation has a no guns allowed at work policy, are you going to break that rule to carry? If the answers yes, then that shows your character. If the answers no, then there's not a big issue. Look into working delivering pizza's. I do that 6 hours a week, and if the 6 hours go well, I make on average 90 bucks for that 6 hours. And if I want to buy something or have extra money I can work more hours. Better pay, less risk. And yes, pizza companies have a no guns at work policy.

My real job is working for Pepsi, and I call on 7-11's, Loaf and Jugs, and such. I've heard of many that get robbed, and have only heard of 1 injury (in the springs) The clerk in Pueblo was stabbed and killed. I believe it was a Diamond Shamrock, but could be wrong. Diamond Shamrock has a no guns, and comply with the robber rule.

And the reason why the gov. let's 19 year olds fight and die for their country is they are in a supervised, regimented, disciplined unit. Where as many 19 year olds are too immature too be trusted with guns, and the responsiblities that go with carrying them. I can understand that law. Not allowing 19 year olds to have a beer is not understandable to me.

[robsterclaw]

Oh and don't believe the main stream media. The chances of a draft any time soon, is very very small. I have 17 and 16 year old sons, and them being drafted ranks behind drug use, girls, and um what I'm going to have for supper tomorrow as things I worry about. :cool:

[Delphi]

lol i know the draft is unlikley, just meh it's a possiblity, just like getting robbed is unlikley but the possibility exists.

Pizza delivery eh? hrmm thats an interesting one that i've never really thought of. I just kinda hate standing around at a cash register fighting not to fall asleep.

But thats off topic, currenty the company i'm with they have no such no gun policy, at least not that i've been able to find.
:mrgreen:

And i can understand that some 19 year olds arent mature enough for a concealed carry, but some 30 year olds arnt either. I say that their should be rigerous testing, and if you manage to pass that and the saftey test if your above the age of 18 you should be able to carry.

But even if a company wouldnt allow a gun, i would have to principally disagree with them, cause if their is a bad guy he will have a gun and he wont give a crap about company rules and regs. Unless somthing would ever happen no one would know, and if somthing did happen than it was a good action after all if that person broke company rules.

[BadShot]

Delphi, you officially scare me and I thank the gods you can't carry legally. Just be sure to let us know where you work so we can avoid it.

If you are really that concerned, go buy some IIa body armor and wear that to work.