Sig classic or sig pro or just some other gun?

[Delphi]

I am looking for a good concealed carry gun, my father has a p228 and it's quite nice. I was thinking about getting one for myself, but i have heard some mixed reviews that the sig pro series is better and some that it's not.

In all honesty i cant really see the difference other than the price.... Anyone know?

And what about glocks, hk's? Are their compact versions as reliable and accurate as SIG's?

Now if possible try to be unbiased in answering these questions... i'm not looking for the ooo this gun is better just cause i think it looks cooler in the movies. :mrgreen: I have some money now, and am only gonna be able to dish out this amount for a pistol once in a long time. So i want to make the right choice

Also i would like to keep it at either 9mm or .40S&W nothing higher... not a fan of low-cap guns, I like the idea of having rounds just incase i dont hit the first few shots.

Thanks for the help guys.

[BadShot]

I've got a SIG 220.. so it's a .45 if you don't know the models. LOVE IT.. its not a CCW gun. I'm not a 9mm fan, so the 226's aren't going to be something I pick up... the 229.. that I will have, just not as a CCW.

Now Marpat has a Glock fetish and for the most part I'm not interested in Glocks. Well that was until he brought around the G30... which is a .45 sub-compact. Not only is it the right size for a CCW, it's .45 - read you won't need more than one or two hits to stop some-"thing". So lets just cut to the chase there... when I pick up a sub-compact, it will be the G30.

Now that you have my opinion - zero value for your personal choice of weapon - here are my considerations for a CCW.

Size
Reliability
Comfort
Capacity
Mag cost and availability

I really don't like the SIG's for CCW.. Most models are too large, even the compacts, in my opinion. If you haven't tried one of the sub-compact Glocks, you really should.

Some other folks here are big fans of the Kahr's too. Another sub-compact I'm looking at is the XD. Hope fully someone will pipe up about their experiences with those. You could also always post this in the CCW forum

[7idl]

... not a fan of low-cap guns, I like the idea of having rounds just incase i dont hit the first few shots....

learn to hit what you're aiming at. (practice practice)

you can always carry a spare mag if you feel you need more.

[Colorado Osprey]

Now that you have my opinion - zero value for your personal choice of weapon - here are my considerations for a CCW.

Size
Reliability
Comfort
Capacity
Mag cost and availability

Some other folks here are big fans of the Kahr's too....

Well stated
Here were my choices for CCW..omitting wheel guns..that I've carried
Backup---Sig 230....but a .380 w/ Cor-Bon's is almost a 9mm
CCW Glock 26, Kahr K9, Kahr K40, Springfield Champion, Taurus PT-22(very small), Beretta Tomcat and finally...drum roll please.......I opt to wear bulkier clothes now and carry a full size...Glock G20

Here's my reasoning...if I should be unfortunate enough to need a firearm to defend my life, a full size is what I train with most as well as being able to have quicker follow up shots and full house power loads of 10mm.

One other thought for a CCW piece...Night Sights
You can not always choose when you will need protection and it will be useless if you can't see your sights....my prefrence is Meprolite

[Delphi]

learn to hit what you're aiming at. (practice practice)

you can always carry a spare mag if you feel you need more.

I understand that argument, but i'm afraid that somtimes you dont have that luxury, in a firefight when somone is shooting back at you, your not going to have all that time to aim, since the time you spend exposed aiming, is time you spend exposed risking getting shot.... I can imagine that aiming and shooting in a real fire fight would be much harder than just shooting at a paper target that isnt shooting back... thats why i want 9mm or 40S&W... wouldnt go 45, just dont like having 6 rounds lol. Anyways if i use good 9mm ammo or 40S&W it'll stop em dead in they're tracks as well... I'm thinking Hydrashock +P+ would do the trick real nice.

Thanks for all your input guys, hrmm so how do those guns compare in accuracy, because i know my the P228 shoots about 1-2" groupings at bout 40-50 yards, and thats with my bad shooting lol. I need more practice... my dad manages to get 1" and somtimes under 1" groupings with it.

Also size... i'm a relativly big guy.... i would rather have somting that fits well in my large hands, the really compact ones feel like toys, and are way to small for me. The 228 is about right, not to small not to big... i cant immagine having to shoot a lil XD hehe. Although i was thinking of a compact glock... not an ultra compact just regular, one thats about the same size as a 228...

What do you guys think of those two guns? Also the Khar, never heard of that... hrmm i'll have to look into it.

[Great-Kazoo]

your not going to have all that time to aim

learn and practice point shooting. AND attend a few IDPA matches.
you'll practice shooting from cover as well as mag changes on the run.

[Hoser]

I understand that argument, but i'm afraid that somtimes you dont have that luxury, in a firefight when somone is shooting back at you, your not going to have all that time to aim, since the time you spend exposed aiming, is time you spend exposed risking getting shot.... I can imagine that aiming and shooting in a real fire fight would be much harder than just shooting at a paper target that isnt shooting back... thats why i want 9mm or 40S&W... wouldnt go 45, just dont like having 6 rounds lol.

You have been in how many firefights now, or have you been reading gun magazines?

Every round you fire is a potential lawsuit. If you think you need a lot of ammo because you are planning on missing a few times, you dont need to be carrying a gun. Thats my never been in, or want to be in, a fire fight opinion.

Anyways if i use good 9mm ammo or 40S&W it'll stop em dead in they're tracks as well... I'm thinking Hydrashock +P+ would do the trick real nice.

A pistol is not a rifle or a death-ray ninja laser. Dont think that +P+ means people just die instantly.

[Delphi]

No i have never been in a firefight, and yes i do read gun mags. In all honesty though in a firefight people that arent in it tend to run away. At that particular time survival kicks in.

In that situation i dont have time to think where all my rounds are going and if i miss... that happens i'm not super gunner, let the lawyers come, cause i would rather be a live man in a court than a dead one in a casket. So yes more rounds are better...

Well i think that +P+ would be much more effective in a 9mm weapon.... I cant say that it will kill them, but it will have a better chance of stopping them. Thats why i'm thinking about .40S&W that in +P+ would be really effective.... or so i'd immagine.

Thanks for the tips on pointing to shoot and reloading mags while on the move... i have never done this... i guess it's time to practice up on that.

[The1andOnlyKC]

Get some training and lots of it, reading gun mags, and internet posts is not even a good start to training.

[7idl]

Delphi-

my 'challenge' to you:

don't buy any more firearms right now.

take what you have and find an IDPA, USPA or 3gun event near you and spend ..oh.. 6 months MINIMUM (At least 1x per month) learning the ropes (people there will be glad to show you (if you're willing to learn))

observe
listen
practice


I guarantee your outlook will change after all that.