Sig classic or sig pro or just some other gun?

[Hoser]

IDPA i will look into that... once i actually own a pistol of some sort. I do want to learn how to shoot accuratly with a pistol...

Untill you are 21, you MUST have a parent or a legal guardian with you at all times at any IDPA, IPSC, ect. And yes, we do check. You may not agree with that rule and feel like breaking it anyway. DONT. Get it? Rules are rules, laws are laws. You might not like them, but thats life.

[Delphi]

I'm not saying that i would feel like breaking any laws, and yes i know that i need somone over 21 to be with you at all times while shooting a pistol while under age. Not worth the risk if caught you can get in serious trouble with the law.

And why would i scare you? Because i think that if a company has that type of policy i wouldnt work for them nor respect them in any way? If they banned any employee from carrying?

[BadShot]

Your demonstrated "Rambo" mentality and several comments made in other post of yours in this thread and else where. I think you need to take a good long HARD look at what is truely involved in being a RESPONSIBLE gun owner and carrier.

Look, I don't know you through anything more than what you write here. I took some time to reread several of your posts from the last several months. I think you have amply demonstrated why 21 is the minimum age for hand gun ownership. I have grave concerns about some of your commentary in this thread. You've shown that you truely haven't given sufficient thought to what it really means to be carrying a weapon all of the time and that does indeed scare me.

I'm not saying you're a gang banger or other type of miscreant, you simply need more experience in life.

It's all fun and games until someone starts throwing bullets!

[Delphi]

My "rambo" mentality... Hrmm i dont really know what you mean by that... All i have said in this thread is that i do not respect installations that would not allow concealed carry, and probobly would never work for them.

I would appriciate it if you pointed out to me what you mean by my rambo mentality, a few quotes would be nice.(i really dont mean to come off as a rambo, if you knew me IRL you'd know that, but also if i do i'd like to change it, so thats why quotes would be usefull) I think that i know exactly what it takes to be responsible. I own weapons and when i'm on the range i think you'd see that i'm not some gun toting idiot.... i dont want to get shot and neither does anyone around me so you have to be carefull.

Just because i want to carry, and because i think that the age limit is bad, doesnt mean that i would break that law, nor does it mean that i would be a "rambo"

And giving thought to carrying a weapon all the time? Just make sure that it's on safe and you dont just pull it out for fun. It's a serious thing that can get you in allot of trouble if not handled correctly.

[The1andOnlyKC]

... not a fan of low-cap guns, I like the idea of having rounds just incase i dont hit the first few shots.

I understand that argument, but i'm afraid that somtimes you dont have that luxury, in a firefight when somone is shooting back at you, your not going to have all that time to aim, since the time you spend exposed aiming, is time you spend exposed risking getting shot.... I can imagine that aiming and shooting in a real fire fight would be much harder than just shooting at a paper target that isnt shooting back... thats why i want 9mm or 40S&W... wouldnt go 45, just dont like having 6 rounds lol. Anyways if i use good 9mm ammo or 40S&W it'll stop em dead in they're tracks as well... I'm thinking Hydrashock +P+ would do the trick real nice.

In that situation i dont have time to think where all my rounds are going and if i miss... that happens i'm not super gunner, let the lawyers come, cause i would rather be a live man in a court than a dead one in a casket. So yes more rounds are better...

In general though i am very angry with my goverment telling me that at the age of 19 i can be forced to go die for my country(the draft which could be put into affect any time), but not be allowed to defend my self at that age.

Thats just in this thread.

I can look in your others if you like.

[Delphi]

K i can see that some of those might sound slightly aggressive, but in all honesty the one where i was talking about +p+ ammo, well why not? The reason your carrying is so you can defend yourself.


And the reason i wanted more rounds is because i'm not a good shot with the pistol, with the rifle i can put everyone in the center... i have had far to little practice with the pistol, and i think that basically once i have the CCP i will be good enough to where i wont need a hi cap incase for some wierd reason i have to engage mutiple targets... very unlikley but you never know.

The lawyer thing... well lol :mrgreen: I do agree with the whole spray and pray thing not bieng a good idea, and i can see why. But their are unfortunate circimstances lets say you take aim and the person abruptly moves right when you pull the trigger?

And with the last quote, i still completly agree with it. I figure you should have every right at 18, drink, guns, drive w/e

Makes no sence to me to let a 16 year old drive and not let a 18 year old have a handgun. The 16 year old has a chance of killing people than 10 18 year olds with handguns. So yes i still agree with that. And i would like the driving age to be upped.

Plus i also believe in stronger gun control to an extent. But i'll explaine that in a different area so we can have some debate.

I can see why some of my statements might sound a little ramboish now, but mostly its because i just dont take the time to write them as thouroghly as i probobly should online, i gues i know what i'm trying to say it just doesnt come across right. The fact of the matter is that i'm a responsible adult with no infractions in any way, and should be allowed to defend my self that is all i am saying.

[BadShot]

" In all honesty though in a firefight people that arent in it tend to run away"

"In that situation i dont have time to think where all my rounds are going and if i miss... that happens i'm not super gunner"

"So yes i think it is a possiblaty that i might get into a firefight"

"And the reason i wanted more rounds is because i'm not a good shot with the pistol"
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These are just a few that stand out to me. Look, I'm not meaning to be an ass to you, but you have to understand that on a site like this one, you really need to say what you mean and say it in an articulate and understandable fashion.

This site differs from most in that we're a small community that actually has the opportunity to spend time getting to know each other both online and face to face.

We're mostly a constructive group of folks but and you need to take this as my perspective at age 35, you're still very young and inexperienced. There is a TON left for you to experience and learn from. Hopefully being involved in a shooting incident won't be something you have to learn from like some of us have.

So when some people here grow concerned over what you have been saying, you need to (and I honestly believe you are which is a plus) take a step back and understand why some of us are reacting to your writings the way we are.

I think you've been given some really good advice in this thread. I do hope that you will take that advice and learn, learn, train train train train and learn some more.

Hopefully in the course of the next few years you'll learn more about why some of us are concerned. Why the majority of us agree with the handgun age requirement and then some.

[Delphi]

Thanks badshot, and i think i'm begining to understand what you guys mean, and i do need to express myself more clearly.

I definatly will get lotsa practice with the pistol i will be getting, whichever one i choose, and i will show up to some of those matches to see how you guys do stuff.

I dont want to carry just to look cooler or anything like that, it's just that i believe strongly in defending myself and that their are lots of idiots out they're that would kill for 20$.

Thanks for all the information guys i do appriciate it and i do hope i have not rubbed off the wrong impression. I am somone open to learning since thats somthing that one should never be done with.

[BadShot]

Actually Delphi, you've impressed me in the way you've handled the criticism in the latter half of this. I know I've been a bit rough in my answers, but I do like to give credit where credit is due.

You'll love IPSEC and those types of events. And some one correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't an event member act as a Guardian or sponsor if Delphi's folks agree? Or is there any facility for that with these competitions and groups?

[Delphi]

Ya it would be great if some of you guys wouldnt mind because the only other person i go shooting with is my dad, and he doesnt have all that much time.

But either way i will convince him to go to at least one with me sometime, I will also get lots of practice with the handgun i do decide to get....