x3 on the Seal pup, I bought the elite model last spring, and took it on several camping trips, doing everything from cutting cord to chopping branches for firewood. Its still as sharp as the day I got it. The nylon sheath has a nice sized pouch on the front that I keep a firestarter and sharpening stone in. I have been eyeballing the Gerber LMF II tho, may be one of my next purchases.