Currently Mine is the 5.11 3 day and the belt leaves a lot to be desired a pack with hip pads is in the future. Todays 6 mile power hike was not bad shoulders are a bit sore and I had to adjust things in the pack to keep them from digging in my back. But for the first time out it was decent. If I can keep it under 50 I can manage a full day my fire pack was 45 with out fuel for the saw and PPE.