The post whore thread.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Meetings suck. I'm not built for this.

[fly boy]

Meetings suck. I'm not built for this.

Just take notes, and ask a lot of questions. even if it pertains slightly too it, ask the Question - really draws it out, and shows that you care..... even if you dont

[buffalobo]

Meetings suck. I'm not built for this.

If you fart loud enough and often enough, they will ask you to leave.

sent from my electronic ball and chain

[TheBelly]

Just take notes, and ask a lot of questions. even if it pertains slightly too it, ask the Question - really draws it out, and shows that you care..... even if you dont

If an attendee of my meetings asked a question that didn't apply directly to the conversation, I would ask them to figure that out on their own time. the collective group in the room doesn't have time to waste with hemming, hawing, questions that don't matter, and folks that can't form a complete thought and put it into words.

Ask your question, get the answer, have the discussion if necessary, then get to the next topic/briefing point....

The elephant doesn't need to hear about where the electrical outlets are located. He certainly doesn't need to have two types of graphics for it, either.

[fly boy]

If an attendee of my meetings asked a question that didn't apply directly to the conversation, I would ask them to figure that out on their own time. the collective group in the room doesn't have time to waste with hemming, hawing, questions that don't matter, and folks that can't form a complete thought and put it into words.

Ask your question, get the answer, have the discussion if necessary, then get to the next topic/briefing point....

The elephant doesn't need to hear about where the electrical outlets are located. He certainly doesn't need to have two types of graphics for it, either.

if you are heading a meeting yes, I would fully agree. Trim the fat, give them the facts, and get on with the mission at hand.

[brutal]

Meetings suck. I'm not built for this.

Story of my life.

Had a Dave on a call just yesterday.

[TheBelly]

There are the magical "Three Be's" of briefing an elephant:

Be Right
Be Brief
Be Gone

In that order... Some folks here have learned that the hard way. This is something I heard today:

Elephant: "I don't give a fat rat's rectum about anything other than a straight answer. I have questions, just answer the questions. I'm not asking for your opinions on it. Just answer my f*&%ing questions. Watch, it's not that hard: Hey Belly.."

Me: Here Sir.

Elephant: What date do we expect (insert important task here) to be complete?"

Me: 14 June, Sir.

Elephant: (to everyone else in the room) See? it's not hard. And Belly's a F*&%ing (insert my rank here, which is a lower rank than EVERYONE else in the room) !!! Why can't I just get a straight answer out of anyone else? Belly is the ONLY one to just give me the answer and the shut his gullet.


(insert awkward silence)

(Elephant gets up and leaves)

I am torn between that interaction. on one side, I feel pretty bad that other folks are getting torn up. I really don't wish ill will on anyone else. On the other hand, though.... I don't think anyone expected anything else, seeing as I've got only two things on the walls of my office: The Swanson Pyramid of Greatness and a little poster that says, "Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead"

A (guy who outranks me, but only a little) came up to me after the meeting and asked me why I made them look bad. I told them that THEY made themselves look bad. Learn your shit, Bro.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

It was a safety meeting. Bleh

[brutal]

You're blowing the curve there Belly.

FWIW, It's a real tough rope to walk when there's clients involved. Particularly if one you have to work with says something completely false/wrong/stupid that adversely impacts something so egregiously that it requires immediate correction. Praise in public, correct in private doesn't always fit and sometimes we are simply not able to apply tact to the situation at hand.

[TheBelly]

You're blowing the curve there Belly.

FWIW, It's a real tough rope to walk when there's clients involved. Particularly if one you have to work with says something completely false/wrong/stupid that adversely impacts something so egregiously that it requires immediate correction. Praise in public, correct in private doesn't always fit and sometimes we are simply not able to apply tact to the situation at hand.

I used to have tact.... but then, I wasn't a Staff Chief at that time, either.