Fact is I could be called Liberatarian except those guys tend to rub me wrong. First off, a lot of them tend to get a "little" fanatical, I'm not typically a get in your face sort of guy. Second, I firmly believe that as the big guy in the world, the US needs to occasionally go out an "off" some bad guys. Some folks out there are just looking for a good smack down. Some of their bullet points are good. I guess its just the guys who get in your face and just keep repeating "RON PAUL, RON PAUL" spoil it for me.