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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Until you talk to them. Then ............. CA isn't a lifestyle. It's a herd mentality thought pattern.
    Yep.
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    Okay I just purchased some Lucas fuel treatment, and changed the oil yesterday. I'm anticipating having spent 6,99 + tax + a one pound bag of dill pickle sunflower seeds for no measurable difference in performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Okay I just purchased some Lucas fuel treatment, and changed the oil yesterday. I'm anticipating having spent 6,99 + tax + a one pound bag of dill pickle sunflower seeds for no measurable difference in performance.
    What makes me not want to buy it is that the 6.99 could be spent on about 3 gallons of gas instead. I know 3 gallons will take me 100+ additional miles. The fuel treatment? Not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Okay I just purchased some Lucas fuel treatment, and changed the oil yesterday. I'm anticipating having spent 6,99 + tax + a one pound bag of dill pickle sunflower seeds for no measurable difference in performance.
    Were you trying to clean injectors or fuel system, or expecting some magical one tank mileage elixir?
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    That's a perfect justification for people who buy treatment every other tank (I'm sure there are some suckers out there doing that). Best case scenario is that my fuel injectors were actually dirty and I get increased mileage from now on. More than likely you're right though.

    I've seen such huge improvements just by driving slower that this is mostly just wasting money. Speaking of which, I'd love to just cruise and see how good of mileage I can get today, but I'm trying to get to Junction City before it gets dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Were you trying to clean injectors or fuel system, or expecting some magical one tank mileage elixir?
    My van has so many miles I figure it can't hurt. It'll be gone in about four hours anyway, so a pretty short experiment.
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    I use a "wonder wiz" mix of PS and MMO in my diesel, but it's more to quiet the injectors, and hopefully improve the life of them and the injector pump...

    I'm not super religious about adding to every tank as I sometimes forget to replenish the mix containers kept in the bed, but make a concerted effort to do so when I'm towing on longer trips.
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    Did you know that Kansas adds a "docket fee" to citations that is more than the actual fine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Did you know that Kansas adds a "docket fee" to citations that is more than the actual fine?
    BTDT.

    As I recall last time I got nailed in KS, it was a cheap cheap fine, even for 20 over and the court costs (docket fee?) was more.
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    That sounds about right. Really pressing my luck with the windshield though.
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