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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    I came from 6 days/week elementary education. When my parents moved to CA public school program, I was on 5days/week. I really liked it. 4days/week is just too little. Average corporate employees put 55-70hr/week, and 4days ain't going to train our kids. Oh, startups are even worse. It is like 80+hr. lol
    Average corporate employees are morons, almost as much as the corporations themselves. That much "work" (useless meetings, sifting through emails that are fluff and a time waste, and browsing the internet instead of working because you are on hour 40 of "work" in 3 1/2 days and have mentally checked out) results in a reduction of output and grinds people down, further reducing output. With the exception of jobs which require a 24/7 coverage, 30-35 hours would be much better so long as people don't abuse it. Really, goal-based work weeks would be the best thing. Oh, and with actual tracking of production and consequences/rewards.

    Additionally, more telecommuting would be better. Obviously, not all jobs can do that. But it's absolutely pointless to go to a desk only to have conference calls, skype meetings, etc. I was given the chance to work from home for a few months when transitioning from private sector to DOD contracting, while waiting on my clearance to go through. Those 2 months saw the MOST production I'd ever had. Why? Because I was in an environment where I got extra sleep since I wasn't driving in, lunch was walking downstairs and eating lunch, and when I was off I wasn't fighting traffic. Was awesome.

    As for school, it should be competency based. Understand this section? Move along. 10 grade reading level in 7th grade? You're on to 12th grade reading. 8th grade and struggling with fractions? Let's get you up to speed instead of shuffling you along to complete failure (thanks, George W., with your every child left behind act).

    What's NOT training the kids is a runny shit down the leg in a marathon sort of education that is modern schooling. It's AWFUL. Awful methodology. Awful environment. Awful. Awful. Awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Even mid 80s, at least [public] school i've went to all had AC. Those buildings were at least 20years old at that time as well. However, I do agree with rain part. Those building sucks so much that rain use to sip into the classroom door and window. (at least in CA school during 80s and 90s).
    One more thing people around here are proud to say. This ain't California. You're comparing what ever economic level CA place to a small AZ farming community 20 yrs ago. ^^^^Don't care how they did or do it in CA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    One more thing people around here are proud to say. This ain't California. You're comparing what ever economic level CA place to a small AZ farming community 20 yrs ago. ^^^^Don't care how they did or do it in CA.
    Sorry Great-Kazoo for having 1 state sample of my pesonal experience of elementary school. I can talk about 2 states (and 2 school districts) of higschool during early 90s.
    Yes, both had AC.

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    Definitely small town stuff, but still strange that they don't have A/C in schools down there.

    I remember being in Temp buildings in my elementary school, and they were hotter/colder than the main building, but I think they still had some sort of A/C and heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Average corporate employees are morons, almost as much as the corporations themselves.
    And here I've been told .gov employees (which is what I am) are morons all these years, maybe we are all just morons....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMoth View Post
    Peraonally, I totally joined just to sell stuff ;-)
    Good thing too because ya'll got my $$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    And here I've been told .gov employees (which is what I am) are morons all these years, maybe we are all just morons....
    Society, largely, is moronic. The problem is generally in the belief that presence = production; that's only true in something like the Ford model of production lines where human beings do mindless work like automatons. The business world, like the education milieu, has a constant belief in, and implementation of, "new ideas". These are largely just old ideas that failed, but in new packaging and phrasing. But it's all an effort to run away from the foundational reality of how to be effective in work: set a goal, complete the goal, don't waste time on fluff, don't distract, and don't make early completion a punishment. Today's goal is X. Finished X at 12? Go home. The modern method is an exercise in moving a pile of rocks from point A to point B and back again.

    Some might argue that this could serve to stunt production and acts as an unnatural cap on profit. I disagree.
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    Just see it like this. Usually companies who beats the earnings and good path to long term growth are ones who work employees to death.
    in contrast, if you see JCP or Kmart/Sears corporate employees......

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    Can you rephrase in English?
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