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    Somebody compare and contrast 1:7 vs 1:9 twist using 55 gr boolits. Trying to explain it to one of the minions and doing a poor job.

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    I was 100% wrong. Read what Crays said below.
    Last edited by HoneyBadger; 05-03-2014 at 10:15.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Please correct me if I have it backwards, but I believe the after 1:9 twist can stabilize lighter bullets better and the slower twist is better for heavier bullets. Is that what you were looking for?
    1:9 is slower. 1 rev in 9 inches.
    Heavier bullet needs faster twist to stabilize vs. lighter bullet. Original Stoner design was 1:12, IIRC. Changed from 9 to 7 twist for heavier M855 (62g)

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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    1:9 is slower. 1 rev in 9 inches.
    Heavier bullet needs faster twist to stabilize vs. lighter bullet. Original Stoner design was 1:12, IIRC. Changed from 9 to 7 twist for heavier M855 (62g)

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalobo View Post
    Somebody compare and contrast 1:7 vs 1:9 twist using 55 gr boolits. Trying to explain it to one of the minions and doing a poor job.

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    What have you said so far, and what is your ultimate goal? Specific diff between performance in 9 v 7, or just basics of rifling (impart spin on bullet to stabilize in flight for better ballistic)?
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    Regarding 1:7 vs 1:9, doesn't the barrel length come into play as well?

    A 20" barrel that is 1:9 will stabilize heavy bullets too, about as well as a 16" barrel with a 1:7. Or at least thats what I've been told... so if I'm wrong, I'm blaming it on one of you hos who told me otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    If I'm gonna drink water, I'm more of a Coors light kinda guy..
    With the recoil from an AR, light beer is really pushing the envelope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    If I'm gonna drink water, I'm more of a Coors light kinda guy..
    With the recoil from an AR, light beer is really pushing the envelope.



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    BC reminded me of what I was leaving out.

    Damn kid is getting old enough and gaining a little knowledge so that his analytical thinking is starting to work. More and more often he will ask a question that throws a wrench into my own analytical gears and locks them up.


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