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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I was wondering that myself just now. The next option is a Honda Element with 24 mpg and similar prices with less maintenance. Same issue with roof rack, but more (and newer) models from which to choose, as well as better interior and easier to find fuel. Not to mention that while I plan on doing most maintenance myself, it is a lot easier to find a good Honda mechanic than a common rail diesel mechanic.

    Liberty can double as a true off-road vehicle and can take things like larger tires or light towing (which I don't generally do) with less of a hit in gas mileage.

    You're getting sidetracked. FOCUS on a work & possibly family specific unit. The element is a nice idea. You also need to look at RESALE VALUE. Will the liberty hold value @ 150K like the Element will?

    I know once you start dicking around with Larger Tires, off road this & that. To another driver with visions of off road heaven in his head, yes it may hold value. To the average driver, not at all.

    A LIBERTY FER CHRISS SAKES One cramped SUV trying to pass itself off as a Real OFF Road unit

    You want resale value, with all wheel drive goodness - 19-23mph (in town) buy a sienna. I have one, full time AWD, roof rack, power seats, windows, fold down here, slide there.
    It's the same drive train and tow capacity as the taco. BUT with sleeper AND covered storage all in one unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh View Post
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    With the possibility of putting 50k on a vehicle in a year, coupled with the fact that I've never gotten rid of a working vehicle in my life, resale is a lower priority to me than for most other people. Besides that, I completely agree.

    The Sienna is the minivan right? I may consider those as well. I have zero image issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    With the possibility of putting 50k on a vehicle in a year, coupled with the fact that I've never gotten rid of a working vehicle in my life, resale is a lower priority to me than for most other people. Besides that, I completely agree.

    The Sienna is the minivan right? I may consider those as well. I have zero image issues.
    Yeah, whatever you buy, you need to assume that the value is almost immediately gone with the number of miles you'll be putting on it.
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    Sienna is the minivan. Really fun to drive, quick V6 for a mini. The newer 4wd have run flats, costly pain in the arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    With the possibility of putting 50k on a vehicle in a year, coupled with the fact that I've never gotten rid of a working vehicle in my life, resale is a lower priority to me than for most other people. Besides that, I completely agree.

    The Sienna is the minivan right? I may consider those as well. I have zero image issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erni View Post
    Sienna is the minivan. Really fun to drive, quick V6 for a mini. The newer 4wd have run flats, costly pain in the arse.
    Mine is AWD with run flats. I want to drop a few gas cans and spare tire on the roof rack, cover it in mud and drive it. Really fuk with people , slap a FEEL THE BERN sticker in the window. Keep it the only clean area, besides the windshield on the van.

    I tell people i drive a Taco with custom Cab Over. They get all stupid when i tell them toyota calls it a Sienna. Derpiness ensues.


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