The post whore thread.

[brutal]

I've seen that same kind of thing, claiming un-filed taxes (while you have the old return in your hand) and it's suddenly the 3rd demand letter the first time they mail it out.

I just rolled my eyes. Apparently it's quite a common occurrence. Accident, or elderly shakedown by the tax man.....?

The shitty part is that while I setup an ACH direct debit for both amounts, I may not see it transact before my close, and therfore not have proof I paid it.

Then what?

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

What will happen is that they will keep/pay the $248 they claim the IRS claims I owe, and then I'll have to somehow figure out how to claim it as overpayment.

OF COURSE it's tax season and not only can you not get a hold of anyone on the phone, they don't work after hours or weekends.

Where's that furlough gov worker thread.... Nah, I should probably stay out iof it if it hasn't already been locked.

[brutal]

Sure would be nice if the SCOTUS ruled income tax unconstitutional... like they did before the .gov became illegitimate.

AMEN brother, AMEN.

Flat tax me for consumption and trade if you must, but stop taxing my hard work. Fuckers.

[Irving]

AMEN brother, AMEN.

Flat tax me for consumption and trade if you must, but stop taxing my hard work. Fuckers.

I think it's pretty much guaranteed that EVERYONE will end up paying a lot more taxes with a flat tax.

[brutal]

I think it's pretty much guaranteed that EVERYONE will end up paying a lot more taxes with a flat tax.

Why do you think that?

I didn't say flat income tax, I said flat consumption tax. Let's make that distinction. We already have a "flat income tax." It's offset by deductions and other shell game tricks people can play.

Interesting read - Consumption tax does away with double and triple taxation, taxes on Capital gains, investment, etc.

https://www.heritage.org/taxes/repor...-and-efficient

[Irving]

Nor did I say anything about an income tax. I believe that it stands to reason that the more simple a tax plan, the more people will pay. Without all the laborious loopholes and tricks and deductions, no one will have an opportunity to pay less taxes. The more complicated my taxes become, the more I appreciate loopholes that require effort on my part. We like to fantasize about a simple flat tax, relating it to the relatively low consumption taxes that are in place today, but the sales tax is only as low as it is due to all the other taxes. If there is nothing but a consumption tax, the government will make sure that all of the tax revenue will be made up in the new tax. So while a flat tax sounds nice at say 8%, does it sound as nice at 25%?

I don't know what the figures would be in order for the government to not lose tax revenue, but I have to imagine that none of us would like it. Further, what would it do to the economy and GDP? If the way to save money is to stop purchasing things, then prices will go up at the same time that the economy stalls.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I wouldn't mind paying taxes to the Gov in general if I KNEW they weren't pissing dollars away like a never ending faucet.

[Great-Kazoo]

I wouldn't mind paying taxes to the Gov in general if I KNEW they weren't pissing dollars away like a never ending faucet.

Government waste taxpayer money.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Yeah, and if everyone did another revolt on taxes, they might pull their head out of their ass. These budget extensions are total bullshit, and wall street is all smoke and mirrors.

I think one major problem is there are too many folks living off the government in the first place, so they would never revolt. You have to have a job to pay taxes before you can bitch about it.

Can someone tell me there's hope that this country won't rely entirely on the Gov at some point in the future before I pass away?

[OtterbatHellcat]

*chirp chirp*

[Ridge]

Another bit of range time.

All my shots were about 5 inches up and right last week after putting on this handguard, so over the weekend I eyeballed adjusting my red dot. Took it back to the range today and it was 3 clicks right, 2 clicks up to center it. Had it done in one mag.