My 'Bug Out Kit' Build

[KevDen2005]

have water carrying capacity to fill up when you have to move,

I agree, I keep an empty nalgene bottle in each of the survival kits as well as the 72 hour bag. I actually keep water in the nalgene bottles that are my in the pack that I refer to as my "Rescue Pack." I change the water out often.

As for filters breaking - follow the typiical rule, 1 is none, 2 is one and so on.

Some military redundancy rules are hard to break for me. I have my filter and water purification tablets.

LRP meal and compare that to how many food bars you have to consume to replenish what you used in a day, and just to get you on track, one LRP meal contains enough calories for an avg male to patrol all day, so 6000+

I got out of the Army in 2008 and don't recall LRP meals. What are they?

[Jolly Green]

It might be worth throwing an extra, light weight sleeping bag in your kit. They come in handy.

[KevDen2005]

It might be worth throwing an extra, light weight sleeping bag in your kit. They come in handy.

Keep one in the truck along with a poncho liner

[NukeRJ]

I got out of the Army in 2008 and don't recall LRP meals. What are they?

LRP meals have been around since early 2000. They are more of a specialty application, So if you were not in a reconnaisance, ranger, or other spec ops unit, you probably didnt have need for them.
Basically it is a full days meal packed into 2 white vacuum selaed MRE bags, they are taped together. One has all three meals for the day, and the other has all the extras and snacks. So you get more calories than 3 mre's offer in the space of 2 mres. The packing idea was to cut down on waste from ratf*cking MRE bags when guys would go patrol. No right minded recon guy would take the whole MRE out - there is wasted space and junk in that bag. LRP's come 16 to a case.
The box will say "Meal Packet - Long Range Patrol"
packed by the Wornick Company.

The major benefit!! here it comes, they are all freeze dried, and made by the same producer as MountainHouse ( I think the packager is Oregon foods??). How cool is that!! so the shelf life is ridiculous versus an MRE.

If you want the NSN pm me, i'll get it off the box.

[KevDen2005]

LRP meals have been around since early 2000. They are more of a specialty application, So if you were not in a reconnaisance, ranger, or other spec ops unit, you probably didnt have need for them.
Basically it is a full days meal packed into 2 white vacuum selaed MRE bags, they are taped together. One has all three meals for the day, and the other has all the extras and snacks. So you get more calories than 3 mre's offer in the space of 2 mres. The packing idea was to cut down on waste from ratf*cking MRE bags when guys would go patrol. No right minded recon guy would take the whole MRE out - there is wasted space and junk in that bag. LRP's come 16 to a case.
The box will say "Meal Packet - Long Range Patrol"
packed by the Wornick Company.

The major benefit!! here it comes, they are all freeze dried, and made by the same producer as MountainHouse ( I think the packager is Oregon foods??). How cool is that!! so the shelf life is ridiculous versus an MRE.

If you want the NSN pm me, i'll get it off the box.

Will pm for sure. And that is a great idea. We often would take MRE's apart to save space...which is a habit I still do today. I never spent time in Ranger Batt., SF, or Division Level Scouts (or equivalent) so I see why I may not have either used them, seen them, or realized what they were if people had them.

And I totally forgot about that term and I am going to put it back into my vocabulary now

[rbeau30]

I think for this kit I am going to not concentrate on water storage, and use the space/weight that the water would take up and replace it with a filtration/pump/purification solution, plus some collapsible containers to store water that I may have purified.

I think I will keep storing water to a minimum, because if I cannot find water I am in deep doo doo anyways. Possibly just take enough water to get me outta town or to a suitable shelter location. (canteen/gallon in car/couple 2 liter bottles. etc)

This kit is big... either for sheltering in place, or to grab and throw into the back of my vehicle. (which should have sufficient water stores for a lengthy trip anyways)

[NukeRJ]

I think for this kit I am going to concentrate on water storage, and use the space/weight that the water would take up and replace it with a filtration/pump/purification solution.

I think I will keep storing water to a minimum, because if I cannot find water I am in deep doo doo anyways. Possibly just take enough water to get me outta town or to a suitable shelter location. (canteen/gallon in car/couple 2 liter bottles. etc)

This kit is big... either for sheltering in place, or to grab and throw into the back of my vehicle. (which should have sufficient water stores for a lengthy trip anyways)

That sounds like a good plan!! Just keep it modular and actually try using it sometime to make sure its feasible

[lead_magnet]

If you ask me alot of the training they give to the military / govt. guys doesn't pertain to alot of us lowly "normal" people. I personaly don't plan on backpacking it though the wilderness, as that would be absofuckinglutely retarded for someone in my situation. Nor do I want to gather water out of toilets in a pandemic. No one idea or theory is going to work for everyone. Where do you live? Middle of the grasslands Faaaaarrrr away from others, city, mountains? How far is the nearest river. Who is comming with you? Where are you going?


Here is another idea fellas, if your plan is to savenge and filter water, that involves a few things.
1: it has to be there to be found
2: you may have to compete with others for it
3: you have to have the means to filter it
4: you have to be able to get to it

Its hard to hunt for water when your leg is broken, or with a wounded companion, etc. Just something to think about, no need to get upset. I'm not by any means saying that one shouldn't have the means to filter water, and the knowledge to know how to find it, but to RELY on that doesn't seem wise to me. I though the idea of preparedness is to minimize the amount of things you rely on, otherwise we can all continue to rely on our kitchen sink.


As far as the food bars go you dont need the GI spec stuff ... these work fine.

http://www.firstaidkitproducts.com/product/FB12M

There are several brands, I personaly like the mayday ones, taste good, don't dry you out. A buddie of mine ate only these for a week just for funzies. I've always thought they would make a wiked pie crust.

Sorry for getting on a tangent about water there, but to me its a big deal for a guy like me, I have others depending on me to have it on hand at all times. Fortunately I only need to keep enough around to last me until I can link up with a friend of mine who has a 100,000 gallon tank on RO.

It's good to see alot of ideas floating around out there, collective knowledge and thinking is always better than going solo.

[NukeRJ]

Everyone has there own plan for what to do when the SHTF...

First, military trained or not, survival is survival, and if you have to hike, then I'm sure you will whether you want to or not. If you have to hole up, then you will do that whether you like to or not.

And since water seems to be the overly stressed topic of the day LOL.

1. If you can't find water somewhere, then you might want to rethink your entire survival plan!!

2. The main goal of survival is to reduce competition for sustenance, hence the reason for go-bag's and bug-out kits, to get away from population in first vital moments.

3. The reason they invented backpack filters and chemical purifiers.

4. Getting to it is just a matter of ingenuity. Like I said, if you can't find it - rethink your plan... or become super human and be able to survive for more than 3 days without water.

In regards to your bars. ---

Amount Per Serving
Calories 400
Calories from Fat 150
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% Daily Value*
Total Fat 17g 26%
Saturated Fat 4g 20%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 35mg 1%
Total Carb 55g 18%
Dietary Fiber 2g 8%
Sugars 14g
--------------------------------
Protein 7g
Trans Fatty Acids 0g
*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.



The average person uses 1500 to 2000 calories just sitting on their ass in a 24hr period. So now add survival to that. you are over 4000 calories a day at a minimum.

Just based on the 2000 calorie diet, you have to eat 4-5 bars to sit around and do nothing.
Are you going to eat 10 bars a day???

Mil-Spec foods are not a requirement, but they are handy - Food manufacturers for backpacking make the same stuff, with the same shelf life. Mountain House being one of them.

Survival is not about how much you can store - its about how well you can prepare.

[Cujo0920]

http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewt...p?f=14&t=36016

Zombie squad has some excellent BoB examples with pictures.