Well- today I stopped into Machine Gun Tours for the 1st time, then went to 5280 again. Somehow I spent no money(today)! I've got a painted Jolly Roger Spikes lower coming in to transfer at MGTours. I'll have them build it. Much smaller than 5280, about 1/2 the size, focus on black guns with no real sporting guns or stuff. Fine with me. Lots of tactical parts in stock on the wall for inspection, including all of the nicer muzzlebreaks/flashhiders. They have all of the really nice AR rec'rs and guns there on display to be handled. An M2 and Browning .30 on tripods on the floor. Nice dogs too. Everyone I talked to seem to know they're stuff. If there is any building to do, I'll have them do it, based also on other reviews. 5280 was as it always is and has been described, but not very crowded. I was impressed with MGTours.