I could see saving on premium loads just not trap loads. As far as better performance I will have to pattern test some of them one of these days to see how much difference it makes in my gun.

Shot deformation can be caused by the gun also my gun has been tricked out by ballistic specialties. The barrel has been back bored with a diamond hone and the forcing cone lengthened out to 3". Those mods make a huge difference in how consistent the gun patterns.

Next time we get together for a day of clays Brian would you let me pattern test a couple of your loads? This way I can see the difference in my gun.

Thanks for the info guys might consider loading shot shells for clays if I see a huge performance difference in my gun.