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    I'm rural enough, and road trip so much that EVs aren't feasible for me quite yet. Maybe one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Last week I got so tired of waiting/spending $ on gas at Costco for the tacoma. Had kia for 4 days and no gas.

    Biggest factor was 10400 rebate incl manuf and taco trade in was 3k less than new, and I had taco for about 32mo.
    Haven't been to a gas station or changed oil in years and I only wish I did it sooner.

    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    I'm rural enough, and road trip so much that EVs aren't feasible for me quite yet. Maybe one day.
    I not sure why people insist on repeating this wholly inaccurate information as if it was fact and is if it was the only consideration when choosing a vehicle. Least of which in a "picture of your latest purchase" thread.

    Our (my wife and I) favorite hobby for years has been road tripping in Teslas... for free. We dreaded road trips before these and I, too, thought you had to have two cars if you own an EV: EV for local use and ICE car for road trips. This idea that an EV has to get 1,000 miles of range on a single charge before it's "road trip worthy" is just silly. ICE cars don't even do that. EVs today can get about 400 miles of range on a single charge and with the charge rates available can put about 80% of that back in the battery pack in like 10-15 minutes. Both of those metrics continue improving regularly making them more and more viable for ALL use cases.

    Road trips also encompasses about 2% of most people's actual use of the vehicle but people talk about it like it's the 98% of the vehicle's use. People say their "road trips" are pulling horse trailers across the country w/o ever stopping once as if this somehow captures typical use cases for anyone. If this is you, then an EV simply isn't for you. Also, if this is you, you're a psychopath who should seek help. For the other 99.99999% of the population they're not only viable but a noticeable improvement in just about every imaginable way. Ways you can't even understand until you own one. For most users, 98% of the time you charge at home which means that every day you get up to leave for work you drive something that is fully fueled & costs about 1/10th as much as something powered by gas.

    That said, this isn't what this thread is about but your statement presented as a blanket fact that some may take the wrong way demanded a little bit of clarity on the topic. I wanted to offer genuine first-hand information to the contrary to at least inform others that they should do their own research before believing something they read (your stance or mine for that matter) and think it's not for them. I was the same way a few years ago but I can't begin to explain how wrong I was and it was all based on what I had held to be true for years based on what people parrot who don't currently and have never owned one. Rare is the EV owner who will say such things for a reason and it's not fanboi-ism.

    Come visit and I'll gladly let you drive one of ours around. I won't say that you will change your stance but if you don't, you'll be the first one I've ever let drive one that hasn't. They really are that good.

    If you want to discuss further feel free to PM me or start another thread (if you chose this option I only ask that you keep things civil if you genuinely want to have a beneficial back and forth on the topic) dedicated for the conversation as I'm happy to answer any and all questions but don't want to derail this thread further.

    p.s. even though I quoted you a lot of what I said here was more in generalities so don't take it as me accusing you of saying anything specifically or putting words in your mouth to fabricate a strawman.
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    I'm certainly not against EVs, but yeah, I own trailers I have to pull, including a sizeable camper. For road trips, I want to get where I am going and get the drive over with. We went from Bennett to Sherman, TX in 11.5 hrs the other day. I make this trip regularly.
    The closest thing to EV that I could manage would be something like the Hybrid F150. Even the baller electric trucks aren't going to pull a 7k lb trailer far.

    My last purchase was grilled gator tail at Catahoula's Louisiana Kitchen in Denton, but I was too busy stuffing it in my face hole to get a pic.

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    In the same situation. Toy hauler is about 9800# loaded. No current ev truck is going to handle that.

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    Not another EV discussion in an unrelated thread please...
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    Yeah, yeah, yeah, start an EV thread.
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    Impulse buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3beansalad View Post
    Impulse buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjtwo View Post
    Nice!

    I spy a Weller in the background!


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