Last weekend a guy up in loveland on a very snowy day put one on arms list for 700 bucks, I sent him a polite reply and told him if he doesn't sell it for his 700 that I have 600 cash in my pocket, he called me within 20 minutes and told me he would take it as he was leaving for vacation with his wife and needed some dough but i had to drive up there that day. It was a miserable ride but i got it and it was next to new, he put about 80 rounds or so through it. Looks like it was bought 1 month earlier as it had a tag on it when it got in the ffl. Can't wait to take it out and shoot it, hard to find ammo for it. found 1 place but you can only buy 1 box per day there so have been in there every day for the last 4 or 5 days and will keep going back until I have enough for a good day out in the woods. Hope it shoots well and is reliable with out all the jams some of them seem to come with. I do like the feel of it.