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    Quote Originally Posted by bluker1
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    oh and who is Alan Samuals
    Close but it is Alan Samuel. We sell the SBR DPMS lowers that everyone was talking about.

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    how much, and what is your contact info if you want you can email me
    crankgoboom@gmail.com
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    i found it on your site. No one ever said i was the brightest bulb in the bunch. But i would like a price, if possible a stripped lower if not, how ever
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    Close but it is Alan Samuel. We sell the SBR DPMS lowers that everyone was talking about

    i keep adding an S to your last name figure after doing business with you a few times i'd know better.

    btw
    did a 10" bushy bbl on top of the dpms lower runs like a champ. now if only i had remembered the ammo at the range this morning.
    lucky i had a few boxes in my range bag :!:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_will
    Quote Originally Posted by bluker1
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_will
    oh and who is Alan Samuals
    Close but it is Alan Samuel. We sell the SBR DPMS lowers that everyone was talking about.

    alan
    how much, and what is your contact info if you want you can email me
    crankgoboom@gmail.com
    Go to Alans website it has all the info you need.

    http://www.machineguntours.com
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    my friend got his back yesterday after a 45 day wait. mine was delivered to them on the 5th the check cleared today. i'll post when i get it back. i also sent out a form 4 on the same day. the go to different places so we see wich is faster.

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    I called and left a voice mail with them. To get a price on the SBR lowers.

    I think that will be the best way to do that right now. I would buy another lower anyway to have it registered Because that way i can leave my lower alone.


    If i was rich i would do a form 4 on it but those full auto parts are kinda pricey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_will
    I called and left a voice mail with them. To get a price on the SBR lowers.

    I think that will be the best way to do that right now. I would buy another lower anyway to have it registered Because that way i can leave my lower alone.


    If i was rich i would do a form 4 on it but those full auto parts are kinda pricey.
    I think you are confused a form 1 is what you file to make a NFA weapon a form 4 is what you file to transfer an already existing NFA weapon to you.

    If you buy a SBR lower from Alan you will submit a form 4. The full auto parts are only about $35 the problem is you can't register your gun as a MG. Civilian registration of MG's has been banned since 5/19/1986 thats why MG's are so expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO
    Quote Originally Posted by mr_will
    I called and left a voice mail with them. To get a price on the SBR lowers.

    I think that will be the best way to do that right now. I would buy another lower anyway to have it registered Because that way i can leave my lower alone.


    If i was rich i would do a form 4 on it but those full auto parts are kinda pricey.
    I think you are confused a form 1 is what you file to make a NFA weapon a form 4 is what you file to transfer an already existing NFA weapon to you.

    If you buy a SBR lower from Alan you will submit a form 4. The full auto parts are only about $35 the problem is you can't register your gun as a MG. Civilian registration of MG's has been banned since 5/19/1986 thats why MG's are so expensive.
    thanks for the clerification, ok so a form 4 is to transfer a already registered NFA firearm. Form 1 is if you make it/create it.

    Yea I new about the 1986 deal just wasnt super clear on how it worked. I thought the weapon could be newer just the auto parts couldnt be newer then 1986 parts.
    So for full auto, I would have to find a already registered M16 lower is that what you are saying?
    I think Karl has been rubbing off on me, because i have looked at a couple of Mac's and even an UZI. they just look like so much fun.

    thanks again everyone for answering my questions. I have tried to read the laws on some of this and they might as well be written in japanese because i dont understand half of them how they are written.
    You guys are goin to force me to go broke with NFA toys now, thanks alot :roll:
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_will

    thanks for the clerification, ok so a form 4 is to transfer a already registered NFA firearm. Form 1 is if you make it/create it.

    Yea I new about the 1986 deal just wasnt super clear on how it worked. I thought the weapon could be newer just the auto parts couldnt be newer then 1986 parts.
    So for full auto, I would have to find a already registered M16 lower is that what you are saying?
    I think Karl has been rubbing off on me, because i have looked at a couple of Mac's and even an UZI. they just look like so much fun.

    thanks again everyone for answering my questions. I have tried to read the laws on some of this and they might as well be written in japanese because i dont understand half of them how they are written.
    You guys are goin to force me to go broke with NFA toys now, thanks alot :roll:
    You got it that is how it works. As far as M16's go there is three ways you can go.

    1. A registered reciever.

    The next two ways you can go allows you to convert an AR-15 you already own to full auto. These devices are considered a MG in and of themselves.

    2. A registered lightening link. (You simply drop it into any AR-15 rifle with a SP-1 style carrier and it runs F/A)

    3. A registered drop in auto sear. (This requires all the full auto fire control parts as well as a M16 bolt carrier)

    Keep in mind that with a Link or Sear if you remove it from the host gun that gun becomes nothing more than a title 1 gun once again. This means it has to have a 16"+ bbl (unless the host is a registered SBR) and in the case of the sear you must remove all F/A fire control parts.
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    Hunter,
    Are there any downsides to using a lightning link?

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