In today's email...

[Hyunchback]

Brian, Please tell me you aren't blaming the officers at the School!!!! There is only one person to blame. The jerk that did this crime. I understand the statement "let's all trust them to be are only means of protection" but failed or not failed breach they could not sit by and let this go on.

I think what he said was spoken with a lack of information. At the time we did not know what the cops did, the girls in the classroom had been sexually assaulted and the killer had broken off communications. Negotiations had failed. Action was their only recourse.

The cops WERE trying their best.

[BadShot]

The irony here is that the public chastizes the Police for doing nothing (re: Columbine) and now they will crucify them for actually acting. Add insult to injury, we have this Canadian Jerk Off thinking we, the members of this club are at least as responsible.

Honestly folks if you were not there and not privy to the information they had on hand, don't try to be the arm chair computer commando, you'll do nothing more than insult those who have and are serving and make yourself look like an arse hole!

[bbadmin]

My first response was this. It was easy as to get a response. So far no response.

"I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. Can you explain what you mean by this?"



Now this morning I get this one.

Subject: Good Place To Shoot
From: ilnasah@hotmail.com

Dearest Gun-nuts,

Did it ever occur to you that the name Coloradoshooting.org is the dumbest name for a pro gun website. You people are a bunch of gun-toting redneck idiots. Sure you have your guns to protect you from burglers, Al-qaeida, and same sex couples, but who is going to protect you and your children from each other. It seems to me the most popular place in Colorado to go shooting is in your own schools. Please do the world a favour and find another form of recreation. May I suggest fencing?

Sincerely,

Ilnasah"



My poor attempt at a response,

"Touche!

Colorado Shooting is also the title of a great magazine! It belongs to the Colorado State Shooting Association.

Actually if we called it Colorado Fencing people here would think we built and or installed fences. We don't do that. And if we called it something else people who used Google would never find us."

That's it right? You were disturbed by the event of the past two days in Bailey, did an internet search and found us, right? As far as school shootings go. We have quite a few members who live there and were touched by this tragedy. I suggest you contact them and offer your support and council.

You might also consult with John Giduck. He is the foremost authority on the terror attack at the Beslan School. He can also give you some insight as to the impact private gun ownership has on such events. You can contact him here: http://www.terroratbeslan.com/

Thanks for taking the time to tell us your opinion."





And for the record, I think the police did the right thing. There was an crime in progress. The nut was systematically raping these girls. Something had to be done. One death is to many. But it could have been worse if they had waited. If you haven't studied the attack at Beslan you need to. The current doctrine is, only negotiate until you're ready to counter attack. Then attack. Waiting does no good except to allow the bad guys more time to prepare, and or continue with their criminal activities.

I'm sure they will all relive that moment the rest of their lives.

[2ndChildhood]

I'll let the facts of pre and post CCW stats from the states that have enacted such law speak for themselves.

Anyone have a link to this data?

-thanks

[Driftwood]

Subject: Good Place To Shoot
From: ilnasah@hotmail.com

Dearest Gun-nuts, ....

I think I actually lost some IQ points reading that email. Seriously....

[poke]

[Driftwood]

Whenever I see this bumper sticker I get a chuckle:

"Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat!"

:mrgreen:

I think this bumper sticker should be sent free of charge to all the Gunphobes who email this site.

[TheSparkens]

[quote="BadShot"]The irony here is that the public chastizes the Police for doing nothing (re: Columbine) and now they will crucify them for actually acting. Add insult to injury, we have this Canadian Jerk Off thinking we, the members of this club are at least as responsible.

Honestly folks if you were not there and not privy to the information they had on hand, don't try to be the arm chair computer commando, you'll do nothing more than insult those who have and are serving and make yourself look like an arse hole![/quote
Sorry, if that sounded negative in anyway, Brian and I know each other and I was just letting him know how that sounded to me. Your response is right on.
We all are aware at how this will play out with anti gun people, and with the find of the AR I'm sure this will leed to someone putting a bill up to change the gun laws. this is why us as gun owners must not be silent.

[Pistol Packing Preacher]

Quote "You people are a bunch of gun-toting redneck idiots"

Is that me? Is that us? Does toting a gun make me an Idiot? Or a Red neck? Darn... I should take up photography!!!!!

But then again... people use cameras for pornography...
BAD CAMERAS!!

Maybe I should take up fishing.......... :roll:

[alucard]

I'll let the facts of pre and post CCW stats from the states that have enacted such law speak for themselves.

Anyone have a link to this data?

-thanks

Umm, without me wasting too much of my time reading into it, you might be able to start here and get some facts:
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html

let me know if it helps...

[GearHead]

I am very sadden of the events that took place in Bailey.

I am not offended by people that have an intelligent opinion about their opposing beliefs about gun control. What does offend me is being called gun-nut, redneck or insinuating that my intelligence is less than theirs.

This is my argument:

During the 20th century, over 100 million civilians were killed by their own governments, more than in all 20th century wars combined. In each case, extermination followed gun confiscation.

·1911: Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians in Turkey, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
·1929: The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, 40-60 million “class enemies,” unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
·1935: China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million Chinese “class enemies,” unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
·1938: Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Catholics, Gypsies and others, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated in Nazi controlled Europe.
·1956: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million “class enemies,” unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
·1966-1976: China still had gun control. Millions of more “class enemies,” still unable to defend themselves, were exterminated in Mao's "Cultural Revolution".
·1990s: Rwanda established gun control. In 100 days in 1994, over 800,000 Tutsis, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated by machete-wielding Hutus backed by armed government militias.


"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
Amendment II, US Constitution